blackmagicdisco
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Where is this snare drum from (as in machine or live drummer)
#966740 - 27/01/12 02:10 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNLQAB-huo8Ok, now I know
its got the old gated reverb trick on there (and I know alot of you will cringe hehe) but
is the snare from a drum machine and if so which one or is it from a live kit with the
gated reverb applied? I get the impression it could be from someone on an electronic kit
triggering a machine. Ive been trying it with Linn Drum snare and gated reverbs, but it
doesnt sound quite right... Oh also the Moog bass, is that a specific patch, ive
programmed something pretty close for the tune im working on, but Ive heard this sound on
lots of tracks of this era (Billy Ocean, Commodores etc etc) so wondered if it was a patch
somewhere.. cheers, Justin
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Jonnypopisical
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Re: Where is this snare drum from (as in machine or live drummer)
[Re: blackmagicdisco]
#966781 - 27/01/12 04:07 PM
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Bass Sounds like a DX7 to me
Drums - drum machine - not sure which one or ones
- Linn, DrumTrak - get the sample for them and see which sounds close...
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Dave B
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Re: Where is this snare drum from (as in machine or live drummer)
[Re: blackmagicdisco]
#966782 - 27/01/12 04:15 PM
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Not a Linn or DMX type snare. This says it was 86 which means that there were all kinds of
machines out here that it could. It might help to find out who the remixer is of this
'club mix'. When I say 'not Linn' I do of course mean 'not a LinnDrum' - could well be a
Linn9000 which took samples. Ditto the Emu SP12 (which was around that time). Assuming
it's not a Fairlight of course..
I'd look for some deep, natural snare hits,
then process them to kingdom come. Lots of compression, eq and gated reverb....
Bass sounds more like a DX7 bass - although a lot of people did layer them with
something like a minimoog to get the weight of sound needed. Something like the FM7 plugin
might be able to help there - or track down the real thing.
'Ang on ... just
twigged something!! I knew I'd heard that kick somewhere - check out 'Boing Boom Tschak'
by Kraftwerk. It's on the Electric cafe album and I'd swear that that track nicked the
kick - and possibly the snare - from that.
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Steve A
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Re: Where is this snare drum from (as in machine or live drummer)
[Re: blackmagicdisco]
#966790 - 27/01/12 04:37 PM
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I'd just like to add that there's nothing wrong with gated reverb on drums, never has been
and never will be, and one day it'll make a comeback, you see if it doesn't.
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blackmagicdisco
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Re: Where is this snare drum from (as in machine or live drummer)
[Re: Dave B]
#966799 - 27/01/12 05:08 PM
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great info, cheers guys! yeah the original has the same sounds I believe, just alot more
reverb on everything!  I have a
pretty huge Library of sounds, fairlight, SP12, linndrum 9000, plus a huge DX7 patch
library for FM8, ill have a dig around... Funny I hadnt considered the DX7 for the
bass as it sounded a bit beefy for a DX, but I couldnt quite get the attack out of the
Moog alone, so that an interesting technique to layer them. However, if anyone has a good
idea what patch it is from what instrument, id love to know! The Nu Disco scene
which I release tracks in has some love for gated reverb on snare, checkout some of those
Los Grandes re-edits, has the gated snare all over it and Nu-Disco attracts alot of
hipsters, so in its own small way, its back in business
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blackmagicdisco
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Re: Where is this snare drum from (as in machine or live drummer)
[Re: blackmagicdisco]
#966800 - 27/01/12 05:10 PM
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oh and cheers for the Kraftwerk tip, could have just made my job easy
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Richie Royale
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Re: Where is this snare drum from (as in machine or live drummer)
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#966802 - 27/01/12 05:19 PM
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blackmagicdisco
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Re: Where is this snare drum from (as in machine or live drummer)
[Re: Richie Royale]
#966803 - 27/01/12 05:20 PM
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hmm, might be onto something with the RX5, I have samples for that too haha
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hollowsun
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Re: Where is this snare drum from (as in machine or live drummer)
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#966809 - 27/01/12 06:14 PM
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blackmagicdisco
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Re: Where is this snare drum from (as in machine or live drummer)
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#966832 - 27/01/12 09:16 PM
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wow thanks, did you sample it from one of their tracks?
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hollowsun
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Re: Where is this snare drum from (as in machine or live drummer)
[Re: blackmagicdisco]
#966861 - 28/01/12 03:37 AM
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Yes. It was there, isolated, in the intro. Easy to snatch.
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ken long
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Re: Where is this snare drum from (as in machine or live drummer)
[Re: blackmagicdisco]
#966883 - 28/01/12 09:32 AM
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Dubious!
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