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Deaf in One Ear / Ipod Problem new
      #968074 - 03/02/12 12:37 PM
My mate is deaf in one ear and she says its really annoying to listen to music with one headphone in (when guitars are panned hard left / hard right) she only gets to hear a bit of the music.. I'd like to make an adaptor that will sum her stereo output to mono for one ear plug.. Converting all files to mono isnt really a solution because its nice to have stereo at home and ipod is of limited space..

I saw this only: http://www.gear4music.com/Recording-and-Computers/Mono-Jack-Stereo-Minijac k-Adapter/3CR

Will this do it? or will this just take the left side and not sum it together?

Thanks for your help! This seems to be a really common problem for a lot of people,be good to get this sorted!

PS-These seem like a good alternative: http://www.scansound.com/single-stereo-earphone-with-eartips.html but she has pretty good headphones already

Thanks in Advance,


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Re: Deaf in One Ear / Ipod Problem new [Re: mathematicsforthesoul]
      #968133 - 03/02/12 05:06 PM
Using a simple adaptor as in your first link may work but isn't necessarily the best solution.

How you combine the stereo signal into a mono one depends a) on the type/quality of headphones and b) the device they will be plugged into.

By simply connecting both earpieces together alters (lowers) the impedance presented to the playback device. Some devices can be damaged if you do this.

It seems they have found a way around this in the product in the second link you sent.

If it's an iPod etc. it should be fine as you see many Y-adaptors which just split the signal into two for two listeners.

Combining a stereo signal to mono will affect the sound stage and you may get cancellation in places. This will most probably be unnoticeabl and it also depends on what type of music they listen to.

Do you need to convert to a larger 6.35mm jack?


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Re: Deaf in One Ear / Ipod Problem new [Re: UNMUTE]
      #968384 - 05/02/12 05:39 AM
Quote UNMUTE:

If it's an iPod etc. it should be fine as you see many Y-adaptors which just split the signal into two for two listeners.



No - splitting a an output to drive 2 inputs is not the same as combining 2 outputs (in this case the iPod left+right channels) to drive 1 input.

Splitting can be done with a Y cable. Combining, as you hint, is best done with some electronics (effectively a mixer), not just a cable or adaptor.


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Re: Deaf in One Ear / Ipod Problem new [Re: mathematicsforthesoul]
      #968388 - 05/02/12 09:51 AM
Don't know what the quality etc of these are like, but they ship internationally

http://www.scansound.com/single-stereo-earphone-with-eartips.html

best

Joe


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Re: Deaf in One Ear / Ipod Problem new [Re: chris...]
      #968570 - 06/02/12 03:50 PM
Quote chris...:

Splitting can be done with a Y cable. Combining, as you hint, is best done with some electronics (effectively a mixer), not just a cable or adaptor.




Quite so. Splitters to feed two sources normally connect thenm in parallel, which halves the load impedance seen by the output amplifier. Assuming the earbuds are of a reasonable impedance in the first place (say 32 ohms or more), then the reduced load shouldn't tax the output amplifiers unduly. If the combined impedance is too low then you'd probably notice clipping on transients first...

However, trying to create a mono signal from two outputs by using a simple adapter that would, in effect, just short the two channels together, is likely to cause damage, potentially destroying the output stages of the device. The reason is that one output amplifier will effectively be trying to drive current into the output of the other... but "they don't like it up 'em" as Corporal Jones used to say! This kind of situation is likely to result inthe device going phut, permanently.

Instead, the two outputs need to be summed either through independent load resistors of an appropriate value to minimimse cross-feeding, or through an active mixer stage of some kind, again with appropriate input loading.

This link shows this idea in a summing cable intended to feed a single powered speaker from a stereo headphone output.

Hugh

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Re: Deaf in One Ear / Ipod Problem new [Re: mathematicsforthesoul]
      #968574 - 06/02/12 04:03 PM
Recent iPods (4th gen Touch, 6th gen Nano) and the iPhone have a "mono audio" feature in the accessibility menu, which will send a summed mono signal to both channels.


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Re: Deaf in One Ear / Ipod Problem [Re: uphillbothways]
      #968730 - 07/02/12 11:35 AM
Quote uphillbothways:

Recent iPods (4th gen Touch, 6th gen Nano) and the iPhone have a "mono audio" feature in the accessibility menu, which will send a summed mono signal to both channels.



Ooh - never noticed, but now you mention it, I see my iPhone4 has that.

A quick google suggests this feature was added to iOS 5.


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