drummerlouis99
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Has technology influenced music in the 21st century?
#969529 - 10/02/12 07:42 PM
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I'm doing a bit of research on this subject and would like to see some peoples opinions. I
want to centre it around the consumers view so iTunes, CD's and vinyl's becoming less
popular etc. But I would also want to know about what artists think about it and if
technology is making it easier for them to get noticed. Thanks
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narcoman
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Re: Has technology influenced music in the 21st century?
[Re: drummerlouis99]
#969540 - 10/02/12 08:57 PM
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I think you'd have a hard job saying it HASN'T!! It's so obvious and in myriad ways...
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Exalted Wombat
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Re: Has technology influenced music in the 21st century?
[Re: drummerlouis99]
#969541 - 10/02/12 08:58 PM
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Technology makes it very easy for anyone to be visible. But, of course, correspondingly
harder to get noticed!
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Mark Henry
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Re: Has technology influenced music in the 21st century?
[Re: drummerlouis99]
#969820 - 13/02/12 05:53 AM
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Yes,definitely. Technology had a great influence on music during 21st century. Newer
technology is replacing older ones.It is been harder for old technology to standstill in
the market.
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turbodave
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Re: Has technology influenced music in the 21st century?
[Re: drummerlouis99]
#969822 - 13/02/12 07:58 AM
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When you say technology, are you considering the electric guitar, improved glues,cheaper
production methods and multitrack recording ? All factors come together and definitely...I
mean definitely influence music and most importantly improve access to music creation.
Dave
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drummerlouis99
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Re: Has technology influenced music in the 21st century?
[Re: turbodave]
#969875 - 13/02/12 11:33 AM
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I'm not really focusing on instruments but I am focusing on cheaper production methods
like you said and about bedroom artists like how anybody (if they know how) can use
software like Cubase, Pro Tools in their bedroom and put it on the internet for anybody to
listen too.
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OneWorld
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Re: Has technology influenced music in the 21st century?
[Re: drummerlouis99]
#969884 - 13/02/12 12:15 PM
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Has technology influenced music in the 21st century?
Yes, it has made watching
live music much more enjoyable and convincing as a lot of recorded music is so formulaic.
FOr example I was listenig to a demo of some PsyTrance and it is the breeze block
equivalent of music...
BumTi, BumTi, BumTi, BumTi,then the HiHats Come in
TittyTittyTittyTitty, then the drop and down to just BumBumBumBum, a few pads
swoooooossssshhhhhhhhhhh
Apply filters to back beat.....
BumTi,
BumTi, BumTi, BumTi BomTi, BomTi, BomTi, BomTi BamTi, BamTi, BamTi, BamTi BimTi, BimTi, BimTi, BimTi
Pads again and bring back HiHats
BumTi,
BumTi, BumTi, BumTi BomTi, BomTi, BomTi, BomTi BamTi, BamTi, BamTi, BamTi BimTi, BimTi, BimTi, BimTi swoooooossssshhhhhhhhhhh TittyTittyTittyTitty
And that's it! which is fine in itself, adds to the variety of music, but
listening to it 3 hours live concert, I don't think so!
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shufflebeat
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Re: Has technology influenced music in the 21st century?
[Re: drummerlouis99]
#969885 - 13/02/12 12:34 PM
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The open ended nature of the question begs the comment tech has always affected music be
it the development of the pianoforte, the keyed flute, the saxophone, the wax cylinder
(how many words have you got to write?)
On your specific topic I think one
topic that shows up regularly on this forum is the huge number of people lining up to give
away other people's music with the promise of virtual money at some point in the
future.
Artists have the option to develop their own business model and many do
but the amount of time, effort and learning curve it involves can leave little time for
making actual music if there is a day job to balance.
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onesecondglance
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Re: Has technology influenced music in the 21st century?
[Re: OneWorld]
#969920 - 13/02/12 03:39 PM
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Quote OneWorld:
BumTi, BumTi,
BumTi, BumTi,then the HiHats Come in TittyTittyTittyTitty, then the drop and down to just
BumBumBumBum, a few pads swoooooossssshhhhhhhhhhh
Apply filters to back
beat.....
BumTi, BumTi, BumTi, BumTi BomTi, BomTi, BomTi, BomTi BamTi, BamTi, BamTi, BamTi BimTi, BimTi, BimTi, BimTi
Pads again and
bring back HiHats
BumTi, BumTi, BumTi, BumTi BomTi, BomTi, BomTi, BomTi BamTi, BamTi, BamTi, BamTi BimTi, BimTi, BimTi, BimTi swoooooossssshhhhhhhhhhh TittyTittyTittyTitty
needs more titty.
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desmond
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Re: Has technology influenced music in the 21st century?
[Re: onesecondglance]
#969924 - 13/02/12 03:41 PM
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Q: Has technology influenced music in the 21st century? A: Yes. Next..?
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Frisonic
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Re: Has technology influenced music in the 21st century?
[Re: drummerlouis99]
#969943 - 13/02/12 05:31 PM
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I'd have thought it would be more pertinent to ask when was the last century in which
technology did not influence music? For example, if you are asking about how technology
has influenced distribution rather than instrument design and manufacture, one of the
biggies over time was arguably the invention of the printing press in the fifteenth
century. Prior to that troubadours held a virtual monopoly in news distribution. After
that came pamphlets, newspapers etc. and the troubadours were relegated from being amongst
the thought leaders of the day to mere entertainers.
Curiously in the C21st
musicians and especially song writers have an opportunity to regain some market share in
current affairs commentary back from newsprint, spoken radio and current affairs
television. This is an idea I've been kicking around for a while. The premiss goes as
follows: News media is having even worse problems as a result of the digital age than
music. 24 hr rolling news on multiple channels in most countries. Instant breaking of all
important new stories, so almost no opportunity for a scoop. Few newspapers able to afford
to maintain a capable journalistic staff (the rest are mostly pedaling recycled pap via
their own community of talking heads). Commentary rather than reporting has become the
only viable, respectable option. But what is to stop anyone putting together a stable of
capable, informed songwriters, musicians, engineers and editors to produce a running news
commentary comprised of songs and music? A sort of musical 'Huffington Post' if you will.
It could only work if the quality of the commentary, music, website and production were
very high. And I believe it would also be important to take a fairly neutral stance, in
the tradition of the best journalism (every song would need to be an unbiased 360 degree
review of the issue being discussed - no hearts on sleeves - the business model would
require buying full access to Reuters and Associated Press to the stable of song writers).
But if the right people, with the right skills sets could be brought together I don't see
why a vibrant website offering that kind of musical content shouldn't be capable of
attracting sufficient advertising revenue, supplemented by a small user subscription,
which is what keeps most news reporting funded.
Not every song writer is going
to be savvy enough on current affairs to pull the task off, and there would need to be a
pool of talent to ensure a sufficient supply of quality material. Like the Sunday papers,
you couldn't afford to be less than a week behind the curve (so its got to be written,
recorded, mixed and mastered inside a week).
In fact today's technology is such
that if visual media people could also be brought into the mix and were capable of keeping
up with the programme, you could even make it an online competitor to MTV etc. Call it
Tubador or something equally daft!
I'd love to be able to answer this post in
two years time by saying "yes, technology made it possible for musicians to regain market
share in news distribution". It certainly is possible. Anybody want to discuss this insane
idea with me feel free...
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hollowsun
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Re: Has technology influenced music in the 21st century?
[Re: onesecondglance]
#969948 - 13/02/12 05:52 PM
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Quote onesecondglance:
Quote OneWorld:
BumTi, BumTi,
BumTi, BumTi,then the HiHats Come in TittyTittyTittyTitty, then the drop and down to just
BumBumBumBum, a few pads swoooooossssshhhhhhhhhhh
Apply filters to back
beat.....
BumTi, BumTi, BumTi, BumTi BomTi, BomTi, BomTi, BomTi BamTi, BamTi, BamTi, BamTi BimTi, BimTi, BimTi, BimTi
Pads again and
bring back HiHats
BumTi, BumTi, BumTi, BumTi BomTi, BomTi, BomTi, BomTi BamTi, BamTi, BamTi, BamTi BimTi, BimTi, BimTi, BimTi swoooooossssshhhhhhhhhhh TittyTittyTittyTitty
needs more titty.
And more donk
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Gary_W
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Re: Has technology influenced music in the 21st century?
[Re: onesecondglance]
#969949 - 13/02/12 06:04 PM
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Quote onesecondglance:
Quote OneWorld:
BumTi, BumTi,
BumTi, BumTi,then the HiHats Come in TittyTittyTittyTitty, then the drop and down to just
BumBumBumBum, a few pads swoooooossssshhhhhhhhhhh
Apply filters to back
beat.....
BumTi, BumTi, BumTi, BumTi BomTi, BomTi, BomTi, BomTi BamTi, BamTi, BamTi, BamTi BimTi, BimTi, BimTi, BimTi
Pads again and
bring back HiHats
BumTi, BumTi, BumTi, BumTi BomTi, BomTi, BomTi, BomTi BamTi, BamTi, BamTi, BamTi BimTi, BimTi, BimTi, BimTi swoooooossssshhhhhhhhhhh TittyTittyTittyTitty
needs more titty.
I've just put up a big post-it note in my
studio with the wonderous words of wisdom 'More Titty' in bold capitals.
Only
good can come of it. Either a number one single or a heck of a night. I am easy either
way.
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desmond
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Re: Has technology influenced music in the 21st century?
[Re: hollowsun]
#969953 - 13/02/12 06:06 PM
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Quote hollowsun:
And more donk
You want him to put on a
donk on it?
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Gary_W
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Re: Has technology influenced music in the 21st century?
[Re: drummerlouis99]
#969957 - 13/02/12 06:10 PM
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And for the OP...
If you're talking 'how has distribution of music been changed
by technology' then I think you need to find a harder question TBH as asking that is about
as challenging as asking 'why do the men in this thread find the statement 'more titty'
very funny'?
Soundcloud means that anyone, anywhere can put up a recording of
their work. This means that a complete stranger (or otherwise) on the other side of the
world can hear your ideas within a couple of minutes of you finishing your work. This is
a huge advance vs sending a demo tape / cd to a 'real person'.
The downside is
that everyone can do it. Using Garageband on an iPad you can make a working demo in a
layby (I did so recently when a tune hit my brain and I had to put it 'somewhere' before
the radio output destroyed it forever). No matter how good, bad or ugly it is, you can
post it. There is no quality control except your own.
So how does the
commercial music industry sort the wheat from the chaff in these days when everyone can be
an artist?
Now that (imo) would be a much better question as the fact that the
technology has changed everything is a no-brainer. It's how people use the technology for
mutual benefit that is the interesting bit.
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Daniel Davis
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Re: Has technology influenced music in the 21st century?
[Re: drummerlouis99]
#969965 - 13/02/12 06:34 PM
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Well I'll just troll a little bit. In the old days you needed to be able to sing to be a
singer - its kind of in the job description if you think about it. Today however anyone
can be a singer and the ability to sing is barely required. Show me a charting singer who
can perform live without autotune. There are exceptions, but the majority of 'singers'
today could not have made it into the charts 30 years ago. So that's progress for you. Now sequencing has been around far longer than autotune, but a similar story
resides there. You used to need to be able to play an instrument to make music, but now
you can just point and click. One could argue that this is about the democratisation of
music, or you could simply say that it has been dumbed down. Again there are exceptions,
but I think the dramatic drop off in record sales is at least partly attributable to the
poor quality of music being made today.
-------------------- Daniel Davis
Edinburgh Recording Studio Windmill Sound
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Gary_W
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Re: Has technology influenced music in the 21st century?
[Re: drummerlouis99]
#969969 - 13/02/12 06:45 PM
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When I told my 10 year old that I was going out last week to 'band practice' she said 'What? You're in a band?' 'Yes' said I 'What, a real band?
Like JLS?'  After a long, hard look I pointed out that we actually played instruments so in
that manner we were more a 'real' band than they were. No points for guessing
how far that viewpoint got me.
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DaveFry
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Re: Has technology influenced music in the 21st century?
[Re: drummerlouis99]
#969979 - 13/02/12 07:22 PM
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Funnily enough I was just reading a 1994 paper on this the other day ; http://chandrakantha.com/articles/electronic_aids/el_aids_music_ed.html
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Frisonic
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Re: Has technology influenced music in the 21st century?
[Re: DaveFry]
#969992 - 13/02/12 08:45 PM
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Quote DaveFry:
Funnily enough I
was just reading a 1994 paper on this the other day ; http://chandrakantha.com/articles/electronic_aids/el_aids_music_ed.html
Fascinating. Thanks for
sharing.
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drummerlouis99
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Re: Has technology influenced music in the 21st century?
[Re: drummerlouis99]
#970120 - 14/02/12 01:44 PM
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Thanks for all the info guys it's going to be a big help.
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