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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
[Re: Martin Walker]
#971277 - 20/02/12 10:36 PM
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Quote Martin Walker:
May I also
remind other forum users about the film version of 'Quatermass and the Pit (1967)'
starring Andrew Keir as the Professor?

Martin
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3434833733223827719
I am assuming this is legal as it's on Google Video.
A total classic.
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
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#971278 - 20/02/12 10:37 PM
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Quote RegressiveRock:
Rollerball
Yes!!! Love that
(original 70s) film to bits.
"Jonathan... Jonathan... Jonathan...".
Brilliant!
I liked the second Mad Max film, which represented the zenith of the
series for me. Waterworld was a nice idea, but fell short.
I also very much
enjoyed each and every Star Trek film.
I never really got on with Star Wars,
but for the first film.
To be honest I've always been more of a fantasy fan
than SF, but most attempts at making films of my favourite fantasy books has been sketchy
at best. Lord of the Rings represents the best of them, but I like all of the Conan films
(including Red Sonja), Willow, Hawk the Slayer, The Sword and the Sorcerer...
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
[Re: The Elf]
#971286 - 20/02/12 10:51 PM
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Quote The Elf:
Quote RegressiveRock:
Rollerball
Yes!!! Love that
(original 70s) film to bits.
"Jonathan... Jonathan... Jonathan...".
Brilliant!
I
certainly wasn't talking about the multiply razzie nominated and worst supporting actress
razzie award winning, 2002 version. 
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
[Re: Martin Walker]
#971296 - 21/02/12 12:21 AM
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Quote Martin Walker:
May I also
remind other forum users about the film version of 'Quatermass and the Pit (1967)'
starring Andrew Keir as the Professor?
I just about remember the original television version, which is
depressing - the script made a good Penguin book.
The discussion seems to be
more about "What sci-fi (spit) films can I remember that are worth watching, rather than
"best sci-fi movie of all-time", and I think that's led to a more fruitful discussion. In
that spirit, for sheer let's-blow-everything-up bravado Independence Day has a lot going
for it, setting aside the Americans Save The World Again subtext for a moment.
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
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#971317 - 21/02/12 08:10 AM
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I've been reminded of another great film/performance.......Jeff Bridges in Starman. He is
one of the few actors capable of pulling off "otherworldliness", and the simplicity of
message combined with road movie narrative is close to perfection. Dave
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
[Re: Dave B]
#971323 - 21/02/12 09:22 AM
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Rollerball is a classic. Not really Science Fiction I guess, just dystopian futurism. Andromeda Strain is a great film; I have read that the current DVDs aren't up to
scratch though, so I'm waiting for a better version to come out. Westworld is
a favourite of mine. I've seen it too often to buy it for the moment, but Yul Bryner is
brilliant as the emotionless robot. The sequel is awful though. THX 1138 is a
great film. But again it is more dystopian future than Sci-Fi. Not too sure about the
tinkerings on the Special Edition, but it doesn't take much away from the quality of the
original.
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
[Re: Dave B]
#971326 - 21/02/12 09:29 AM
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Mad Max was fun, but more of a post-apocalyptic fantasy really. (A good rule of thumb is
that if you can replace guns with arrows and spaceships/cars with horses, then it's
probably either a Western or a fantasy underneath the costumes.)
Back to the
Future was also fun, but much more of a teen comedy than anything else - although the
second installment where Biff uses time travel to make himself a fortune is closer to the
real thing. A much better timey-wimey film is Frequently Asked Questions About Time
Travel, which is a great little low-budget British film.
Personally I
couldn't stand The Omega Man. And I particularly hated the Will Smith version for making
it that he's a legend for saving the world. The whole point of the book's title is that
he's a bogeyman legend to the new society (people who caught a variant of the virus that
gave them some vampire characteristics but still left them sane) because he went round
killing them while they slept. All you need to do is film the book, guys - but
noooo.....
Oh, I forgot. Minority Report. Possibly the only example ever of
taking a book title, throwing away most of the book's plot, and writing a new plot which
actually works properly.
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
[Re: RegressiveRock]
#971331 - 21/02/12 09:44 AM
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Quote RegressiveRock:
PS... I see
your La Jetee and raise you Pi
In obscurity stakes, I reckon LJ wins... Pi is a good film though, I saw that at the
little cinema in Nottingham where SOS covered that headphone gig recently... nice place,
you used to be able to get a ticket for a meal and a film for less than a tenner. Good
stuff.
Have you seen Cube? 90s low-budget job, several people trapped in - er
- a cube. Seems there were a couple of sequels, but I haven't seen those. The original
is decent though.
Nipping back to LJ, I saw that on DVD, coupled with a
semi-documentary called Sans Soleil by the same director - if you can find it, it's well
worth watching. It veers on pretentious, but is fascinating.
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
[Re: RegressiveRock]
#971343 - 21/02/12 10:06 AM
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Quote RegressiveRock:
OK,
wilfully obscure now - How about La Jetée..?
La Jetee is one of my all time favourite films, but it's not a
feature length. It's a short.
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
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#971347 - 21/02/12 10:15 AM
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Quote nathanscribe:
Have you seen
Cube? 90s low-budget job, several people trapped in - er - a cube.
I'd forgetten about that one! A great idea and
nicely made.
I like the Resident Evil films too - the games are abolutely
brilliant and the films not far behind. It's a pity that the genius of 'Silent Hill'
didn't make such a successful leap from game to movie.
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
[Re: Dave B]
#971368 - 21/02/12 10:45 AM
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The Resident Evil games are far better than the films. The zombie thing has been done to
death though and I am pretty tired of that genre. Same for vampires. New monsters please!
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
[Re: Dave B]
#971372 - 21/02/12 10:57 AM
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Also, I recently picked up a couple of films I remember seeing back in the 90s: Hardware
and Dust Devil (both directed by Richard Stanley). Worth a watch I think.
Eden
Log is interesting too - very little dialogue, and though it's a bit episodic it works
well.
I generally like the stuff by Jeunet & Caro, but Dante 01 was weak and
underdeveloped I thought. Should have been much better. It's too predictable and
burdened with unnecessary overuse of religious imagery, which cripples it rather
clumsily.
Much better is Moon. That was really nicely done.
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
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#971376 - 21/02/12 11:08 AM
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Quote Richie Royale:
The Resident
Evil games are far better than the films. The zombie thing has been done to death though
and I am pretty tired of that genre. Same for vampires. New monsters please!
Watched Twilight last night. Was
pleasantly surprised.
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
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#971401 - 21/02/12 12:59 PM
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Cube 2 and Cube 0 are worth a watch, but you kind of know the score already. Cube2 has
flashier sfx and Cube0 reveals a little more about the people running the show. The
original is still a good film and a very simple premise. Get a good story and characters
and you don't need squillions on complex CGI.
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
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#971406 - 21/02/12 01:37 PM
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I feel I can't really add much to this list as most of my favourites have already been
mentioned, but how about two 'modern classics' that I think have been just superb...
District 9 and Moon.
Also... can't believe no-one mentioned TRHPS!
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
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#971409 - 21/02/12 01:53 PM
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Quote Jennifer Jones:
Also...
can't believe no-one mentioned TRHPS!
"Rocky" and "horror" being the key words there...
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
[Re: Martin Walker]
#971410 - 21/02/12 02:09 PM
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Quote Martin Walker:
May I also
remind other forum users about the film version of 'Quatermass and the Pit (1967)'
starring Andrew Keir as the Professor?
Martin
yes! I remember watching these when i was knee
high.....limited special effects compared to today but they scared the hell out of me!
Been looking all over the web for somewhere to buy the whole Quatermass series
(dont think there was many of them made?) but no luck so far.
EDIT, what about "The outer limits", the old black & white series. Class.
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
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#971416 - 21/02/12 02:50 PM
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The more recent "Outer Limits" in the 90s were pretty good too. Although really they were
more horror/thriller territory.
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
[Re: Dave B]
#971431 - 21/02/12 04:20 PM
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suprised no one has mentioned start trek, i know its for fans really but i thought the
newest one was pretty decent.
Agree that alien would be in my top five but such
a wide genre a top one would be hard, matrix? hmmm
i enjoyed a film called
equillibrium (spelling),total recall (remake in the offering)and 5th element
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
[Re: grab]
#971433 - 21/02/12 04:28 PM
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Quote grab:
The more recent
"Outer Limits" in the 90s were pretty good too. Although really they were more
horror/thriller territory.
'Journey into the Unknown' was my favourite of that short-story genre. The opening
credits with that lone whistle in the deserted fairground was super-eerie! Well... it was
at the time!
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
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#971446 - 21/02/12 05:36 PM
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There's a major reasons why discussion of good sci-fi films doesn't mention Star Trek.
The word "good" is the clue...
Equilibrium was fairly standard
Big-Brother-ness. Mainly it was notable for its "gun-kata" martial arts and swordplay,
which were rather well done. Massive conceptual holes in the idea of a "sense offender"
though, when people are still living in families - surely this should all have gone
artificial insemination, babies brought up in creches, and people either living on their
own or in dormitories?
Fifth Element was almost Frankie-Howard-in-space, it was
so camp. Lots of fun visuals to distract from the essential lack of ideas.
Total Recall was fairly well done. Just about anyone other than Arnie would have been
an improvement, but never mind.
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
[Re: Dave B]
#971452 - 21/02/12 06:04 PM
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The Andromeda Strain and Bladerunner get my vote. And The Fly (1986)
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
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#971454 - 21/02/12 06:08 PM
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Quote mick.n:
Quote Martin Walker:
May I also
remind other forum users about the film version of 'Quatermass and the Pit (1967)'
starring Andrew Keir as the Professor?

Martin
yes! I remember watching these when i was knee
high.....limited special effects compared to today but they scared the hell out of me!
Been looking all over the web for somewhere to buy the whole Quatermass series
(dont think there was many of them made?) but no luck so far. 
EDIT, what about "The outer limits", the old black & white series. Class.
Hah! I remember the BBC TV series - Late 50s
early 60s - scared the living daylights out of me
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
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#971458 - 21/02/12 06:24 PM
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Quatermass was on well past my bedtime. I remember everyone in school would be talking
about it the next day. My Ma was a tyrant.
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
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#971459 - 21/02/12 06:30 PM
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Quote grab:
There's a major
reasons why discussion of good sci-fi films doesn't mention Star Trek. The word "good" is
the clue...

Burn the heretic! 
OK, not as good as the TV series, I'll admit...
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
[Re: The Elf]
#971486 - 21/02/12 08:39 PM
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Wasn't Equilibrium just a loose remake of Fahrenheit 451 ?
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
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#971489 - 21/02/12 08:51 PM
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Quote The Elf:
Quote grab:
There's a major
reasons why discussion of good sci-fi films doesn't mention Star Trek. The word "good" is
the clue...

Burn the heretic! 
OK, not as good as the TV series, I'll admit...
Only the original counts ! So
hammy the cast were on the verge of laughter . Always makes me laugh when I see Kirk
doing his hoppy judo dance . Oh , another good bit , check out the Corbomite maneuver
, the character(?) Balok is a ringer for Sarah Jessica Parker !
Strange how
later TNG etc took itself soo seriously , bloody awful , like a long propaganda series for
USA "Embracing all the cultures as the oil .. sorry ... dilithium is liberated from
belligerent , uncivilised , different cultures .
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
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#971492 - 21/02/12 09:04 PM
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But the sadly maligned and misunderstood 'Enterprise' was close to being as good as the
original. I loved the fact that the technology was developing in 'Enterprise' and couldn't
be relied upon to solve all problems.
And Voyager was actually quite good until
it became 'Coronation Street in Space' - at which point I lost interest.
I'll
add 'Frequency' as another 'SF-ish' film I enjoyed. Clever idea too.
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
[Re: Dave B]
#971493 - 21/02/12 09:05 PM
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I'm glad my mention of Quatermass has stirred so many memories - a case of the plot
triumphing over the low budget special effects  Martin
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
[Re: Dave B]
#971503 - 21/02/12 09:36 PM
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Dark city is pretty good and underrated ..
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
[Re: Dave B]
#971520 - 21/02/12 11:17 PM
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Love Galaxy Quest & Land Of The Lost, both admittedly spoofs. But my fave has to be
Zardoz, I really must watch that again sometime.
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
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#971534 - 22/02/12 12:09 AM
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This is all passing me by I'm afraid. I live in a village in Devon and, to be honest, SF
doesn't even come close to the everyday reality. Whether it's Cowboys in space or near
future dystopia, it has to be better than this... Andy
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
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#971552 - 22/02/12 07:03 AM
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Hmmm... yes... I spent last weekend in Sidmouth and I have to say my connection with
reality seemed pretty tenuous the whole time. CC
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
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#971556 - 22/02/12 08:15 AM
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Quote:
This is all passing me by
I'm afraid. I live in a village in Devon and, to be honest, SF doesn't even come close to
the everyday reality. Whether it's Cowboys in space or near future dystopia, it has to be
better than this...
Andy 
Ah yes, Devon.
Isn't that the
place where you are only allowed to pay by credit card if you are over 80?
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
[Re: Dave B]
#971563 - 22/02/12 09:24 AM
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ah, some good stuff being mentioned now. johnny h is bang on, Dark City is brilliant
stuff. Minority Report, Inception, and Avatar deserve mentions for being big budget
Hollywood sci-fi - once commonplace, now becoming pretty rate. for all their shortcomings
it's good to see them bringing SF back into the limelight. Equilibrium and Cube
are pretty standard high-concept fluff but well executed and tons of fun. Equilibrium in
particular is elevated by a good performance from Christian "I'm Batman" Bale and
brilliantly choreographed action scenes. for me these hark back to the heady days of
sci-fi action like Total Recall and the Terminator franchise (which stopped at Judgement
Day, don't let anyone try and tell you otherwise). Moon is a great little film
built around an intriguing idea; it's like a more successful version of Solaris, which
plays with similar themes but is ultimately less satisfying (although i've heard the
original is better than the George Clooney version i've seen). District 9 starts off in
the same "indie SF" oeuvre but manages to move into full-on action by the end - but
without losing its charm and pace. a great watch. Event Horizon creeped me out far more
than it had any right to. I've actually stopped watching Doctor Who and
Torchwood. I was ok with the modern Who up to the end of the David Tennant run, but found
myself grinding my teeth at the annoying Donna sidekick. from thereon in i haven't truly
enjoyed a series of it and have now just stopped to reduce the amount of shouting at the
TV in my house. Torchwood was ok in the first series, got a lot better in the second, but
then became dull and trite for me after then. Children of Men was ok, nothing more - and
Miracle Day was a two hour special dragged out into a ten hour ego-fest. whoever decided
they should pivot the entire show around that irritating Gwen woman has a lot to answer
for. i never really watched Trek when i was younger, but i thoroughly enjoyed
the latest movie. this probably explains a lot.
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
[Re: TheBev]
#971569 - 22/02/12 09:35 AM
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Quote drargon:
But my fave has to
be Zardoz, I really must watch that again sometime.
Ooooh, yes. Bonkers and brilliant.
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
[Re: Dave B]
#971590 - 22/02/12 11:40 AM
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The Terminator, and the first 2 Alien films.
Never bettered, no CGI, all done
in camera and all the better for it.
HATE CGI, just looks rubbishly unrealistic
however much they tell you it isn't...
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
[Re: Dave B]
#971618 - 22/02/12 12:55 PM
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I don't like CGI much either, but the first Ironman has some pretty seemless integration
with the real suit. Does Ironman count as Sci Fi? It has some science in it,
actually a lot more than some of the other suggestions here. It is a very good film, for a
comic book adaptation, which are usually pretty bad or hard to take seriously in live
action.
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
[Re: nathanscribe]
#971633 - 22/02/12 01:44 PM
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Quote nathanscribe:
Quote drargon:
But my fave has
to be Zardoz, I really must watch that again sometime.
Ooooh, yes. Bonkers and brilliant.
Indeed. Mr Connery and his
helmet... erm... so to speak.
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Re: "best sci-fi movie of all-time"
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#971635 - 22/02/12 01:48 PM
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...oh and can I admit that Space: 1999 is my guilty pleasure!
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