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johnny h



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Re: Mountain Lion [Re: Exalted Wombat]
      #971292 - 21/02/12 12:10 AM
Quote Exalted Wombat:


Sure. But progress towards WHAT? Apple have discovered and developed a huge market for a fully inegrated iWorld with all the gadgets sharing entertainment media (with suitable DRM, of course) and a full selection of easy-use applications at the GarageBand and iMovie level. By restricting choice they can, to an extent, make it all "just work". Why waste resources elsewhere? Would you?




That's a nothing statement.


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Aftertouch
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Re: Mountain Lion new [Re: Will_m]
      #971294 - 21/02/12 12:16 AM
And whilst everyone was up in arms about fcpx, some pro editors were busy doing business with it.

7 pro editors share their fcpx editing experiences

An insight from people who actually used it.


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Will_m



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Re: Mountain Lion new [Re: Aftertouch]
      #971297 - 21/02/12 12:56 AM
Quote Aftertouch:

And whilst everyone was up in arms about fcpx, some pro editors were busy doing business with it.

7 pro editors share their fcpx editing experiences

An insight from people who actually used it.




Even in the opening paragraphs there is much said about it being a somewhat closed experience:

"Since you are reading this on Philip Bloom’s blog, you are likely one of these media ‘master of all trades.’ Shooter, editor, mixer, colorist. You also likely know that last summer there was an earthquake in the non-linear editing world. What many had expected to be a long overdue update to Final Cut Pro, ended up being a full-scale application rewrite with a completely new interface – and many missing features. The feedback from editors was overwhelmingly negative. We editors aren’t exactly known for our sunny dispositions to start with but with FCP X, Apple unleashed a hornet’s nest of professional users who understandably felt confused and betrayed."

I'm not sure how finding 7 users who do like some of the features means that all the negatives and concerns are unfounded. The article also says that apple beta tested FCPX and despite feedback on lack of pro features went ahead anyway, again this just seems like telling the customer what they want.

"Despite feedback on their beta program for FCPX, Apple released their software without some of the pro features – OMF, Broadcast Monitoring and Edit to Tape functions."

At the end of the day it just depends on how you work, some editors have switched to premiere or avid, some stayed with their current version and others have upgraded. The topic was merely meant to start a discussion on the direction of music making, some have engaged and some seem rather defensive. I can see the benefits of an all-in-one solution but some things are just better shared, or at least given the option to.

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Re: Mountain Lion new [Re: Will_m]
      #971346 - 21/02/12 10:13 AM
I see your point William. I just found it interesting that these seven and many other editors, who really gave fcpx a chance, found that although lacking in many areas (most of which already addressed in three timely updates), the world hadn't caved in and fcpx actually offers editors far more than what the naysayer had made out.


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Re: Mountain Lion new [Re: Will_m]
      #971350 - 21/02/12 10:19 AM
Quote Will_m:

I'm not sure how finding 7 users who do like some of the features means that all the negatives and concerns are unfounded.




We get your point, and it has merits as we have discussed. Some of us here have suggested the situation, from those of us invested in FCP with personal experience, isn't perhaps all quite as negative as the picture you painted, and explained why and gave you some links to positive feedback to back that up. Many of the things not implemented have now been implemented and the situation will improve I'm sure as the software matures. It's not perfect yet.

Logic 1 also didn't implement a lot of features that the previous Notator SL had - you just cannot do everything at once. However, look at where Logic has got to...

But we're now going around in circles, retreading the same ground, so let's not both repeat our points again, eh..?


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