Hi Everyone


We are having our toms triggered off on hollow stages by the drummers loud monitor.

We have reduced the sensitivity of the trigger on the Roland TD module and reduced the bass response of the monitor with its graphic. Its mostly the toms and now and again the snare. The triggers are mostly being triggered by vocals or acoustic guitar through the drummers monitor and he has to hear these.

If we put it on a diy foam pad would that help. Or are their better solutions. And no the drummer wont turn down his monitor for drummers reasons.

The drummer needs the monitor to be reasonably loud to get the feel from the triggered drums.

We are not going acoustic as triggers work better for us as we are an acoustic band. So the control of the drums levels via triggers are essential to us doing any kind of gig. Having all drums volumes controlled via a mixer button is fantastic, to go from tiny house to massive hall.

Thanks in advance

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what about in-ear-monitors for the drummer??

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Are there any filters on the trigger inputs of the Roland module? I'm fairly sure that some modules offer this function.

If there aren't then I'd either look at adding filters to the trigger inputs or use in ear monitors.

James.

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I've not used that Roland device, but have found different triggering units differ greatly in what parameters they offer for preventing false triggering. This is particularly important if triggering from acoustic drums, as opposed to pads. You might check out some different trigger units.

Another option would be to use pads instead - they won't suffer this problem.

Other than that, as has been suggested, monitor quieter and/or use headphones / IEMs.

Quote James Perrett:

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Are there any filters on the trigger inputs of the Roland module? I'm fairly sure that some modules offer this function.

If there aren't then I'd either look at adding filters to the trigger inputs or use in ear monitors.

James.

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Sorry late response back thanks for the comment. How would you achieve adding filters to the inputs mate. Cant see any filters on the inputs within this unit, in the manual. It sounds like the rim of the Tom is triggered I am writing this on behalf of our drummer as his techie side is flatulant.

Not sure if it is a rim shot of a tom as not sure what that is supposed to sound like, defo lower than the main full on sample though.

His triggers are old Yamaha pads the solid ones, so maybe its these. We use these as he hits them with his hands as he has a hybrid setup of drums and percussion. The rimmed drums are not an option unless he wants stumps.....

Cheers mate

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I've not used that Roland device, but have found different triggering units differ greatly in what parameters they offer for preventing false triggering. This is particularly important if triggering from acoustic drums, as opposed to pads. You might check out some different trigger units.

Another option would be to use pads instead - they won't suffer this problem.

Other than that, as has been suggested, monitor quieter and/or use headphones / IEMs.

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I wish him and the singer would bloody use in ear monitors, I am getting killed by their monitors, might take them to court....

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If it is rimshots on multi-zone toms you could just assign that rim to "no sound". If is rimshots on the snare, that might be a bit trickier, as he may actually use that.

This is odd. which TD is it? I did a gig with a guy who used the TD20 and had a mini PA complete with sub for his monitoring and it didn't trigger, so it could be a case of dialing down the sensitivity until it stops.

That said, being a drummer myself, I'd be eager to use IEM or headphones in this situation.

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His triggers are old Yamaha pads the solid ones, so maybe its these. We use these as he hits them with his hands as he has a hybrid setup of drums and percussion. The rimmed drums are not an option unless he wants stumps.....

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Sounds like he's simply not hitting them hard enough. These things are probably designed to be hit by sticks rather than hands so they're having problems distinguishing his light taps from other sounds. He needs a device that detects the pressure on a pad and closes a contact rather than something that picks up vibrations. Drum machines sometimes work this way but I'm not sure if there are any pads designed for hand percussion.

James.

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His triggers are old Yamaha pads

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Sorry I'm lost now. Is he using triggers, or pads ?

"Triggers" are small pickups mounted on acoustic drums. These are quite susceptible to being set of by sounds on stage.

But they're not pads!

the x talk feature might be the issue here? on the TD's stamping your foot on the floor can set them off if the thresh is not set right.

Im not a drummer "im a musician" but Im pretty sure that should be your 1st port of call.

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