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Creep_Joint



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Suggestions for Piano/Synth Keyboard new
      #973044 - 29/02/12 11:30 AM
Hi
Daughter recently started learning keyboard and got to a stage where we want to replace my crusty old Evolution MK149. It's got to fulfill her purpose (piano) but I also want to use it for my own nefarious purposes

The criteria are:

Decent piano sound
Built in speakers (for portability)
MIDI
Weighted keys
After touch

I've had a look at a few Casios but none seem to have MIDI. Any suggestions greatly appreciated.


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Re: Suggestions for Piano/Synth Keyboard new [Re: Creep_Joint]
      #973048 - 29/02/12 11:42 AM
Budget?


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Creep_Joint



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Re: Suggestions for Piano/Synth Keyboard new [Re: Scramble]
      #973052 - 29/02/12 12:09 PM
Around £300 but higher suggestions welcome. However, it's safe to say the wife will veto all beautiful Nord keyboards


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Re: Suggestions for Piano/Synth Keyboard new [Re: Creep_Joint]
      #973079 - 29/02/12 01:07 PM
Quote Creep_Joint:

However, it's safe to say the wife will veto all beautiful Nord keyboards




Don't be so sure. Show her lots and lots of battered, ugly, synths and keyboards. Then start using key phrases such as 'That would look AMAZING in the living room'...

Once she starts panicking, show her the Nord Range

Andy

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Re: Suggestions for Piano/Synth Keyboard new [Re: zenguitar]
      #973088 - 29/02/12 01:29 PM
I'm beginning to get the feeling that you've tried this approach before Andy


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Re: Suggestions for Piano/Synth Keyboard new [Re: Creep_Joint]
      #973107 - 29/02/12 02:39 PM
Second-hand okay?


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Re: Suggestions for Piano/Synth Keyboard new [Re: Creep_Joint]
      #973108 - 29/02/12 02:53 PM
Quote Creep_Joint:

Decent piano sound
Built in speakers (for portability)
MIDI
Weighted keys
After touch



There's not going be a lot around that ticks all of those boxes. A separate amp would widen the options quite a lot. Were you looking for a full-size (88-note) keyboard like the Yamaha P250...?

(What Casios were you looking at...? I'd be surprised if they were selling digital pianos without MIDI.)


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Re: Suggestions for Piano/Synth Keyboard new [Re: Scramble]
      #973119 - 29/02/12 03:40 PM
Quote Scramble:

Second-hand okay?



Absolutely!

Quote BJG145:

There's not going be a lot around that ticks all of those boxes. A separate amp would widen the options quite a lot. Were you looking for a full-size (88-note) keyboard like the Yamaha P250...?

(What Casios were you looking at...? I'd be surprised if they were selling digital pianos without MIDI.)




We wanted something we could move easily around the house, quick and simple to turn on and get going hence the built in speakers.
Not looking for a full size keyboard but 49 key minimum.
I don't know the models of the Casios I was looking at as I was mainly looking round the back at the ports but they were cheapies - around the £150 mark.


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Re: Suggestions for Piano/Synth Keyboard new [Re: Creep_Joint]
      #973169 - 29/02/12 07:48 PM
I would recommend second-hand too, though I am not a specialist for pianos with built-in speakers. Otherwise, the Yamaha P-series, the Korg SP series and the Roland RD / FP series are usually good 88-key stage pianos.


When it comes to new gear, maybe you can have a look at these:

Yamaha P-95 (decent piano sound, built-in speakers, good key feeling, lightweight for a 88-key hammer action keyboard; no line out connector, only headphones)

Yamaha Piaggero series, the NP-31 for example (only 76 keys, but very light, and comes with built-in speakers; never tried it)

Roland, Korg and others should make some similar products too!


Bear in mind that most built-in speakers will not be so good. You may plug the keyboard to a hi-fi system or something similar when it is possible.

Cheers
-j


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Re: Suggestions for Piano/Synth Keyboard new [Re: Bob Moose]
      #973365 - 01/03/12 02:16 PM
Thanks Bob, those Yamaha's look like they will do the job.

Also, came across the Casio CDP-100 which is a bit more in the price range.


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Re: Suggestions for Piano/Synth Keyboard [Re: Creep_Joint]
      #973913 - 04/03/12 09:27 AM
just a word of note - those new yamaha p11/p31 keyboards are very plasticky! i tried one the other day and they are more like a normal synth action but with waterfall keys. they have lots of unnecessary movement (sideways) which doesn't inspire confidence. the black keys in particular have an odd feel about them. the blurb on the p31 mentions 'graded' action but i couldn't discern any difference between bass and treble keys...

yes, they are cheap but i can only think you would be looking to replace it in another year or so?

i eventually opted for a novation impulse 61 controller - still not weighted but a much nicer action than the yamaha and all the controller goodness too!

sean


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