RoastBiff in France
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Creating master Fader, and SOLO Problem.
#974571 - 07/03/12 02:20 PM
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I need to create a Stereo Out Master fader for any complete song in Logic Pro, but cannot
find the info on how to do this. I'm mixing the song within logic to with all channels
routed to Stereo Out, and need to control the overall mix level out of Logic to my master
Digital Recorder. Secondly, My SOLO button has stopped working on the arrange
page, Mixer or Environment Click and Ports, If I press it on any channel I just get total
silence, at the moment I am having to mute every channel that I don't want to hear ? HELP !!
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chris...
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Re: Creating master Fader, and SOLO Problem.
[Re: RoastBiff in France]
#974575 - 07/03/12 02:38 PM
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Quote RoastBiff in France:
I need
to create a Stereo Out Master fader for any complete song in Logic Pro, but cannot find
the info on how to do this. I'm mixing the song within logic to with all channels routed
to Stereo Out, and need to control the overall mix level out of Logic to my master
Digital Recorder.
Hi,
We discussed something similar in this thread a year ago:
http://soundonsound.com/forum/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=900133&Main
=899271
My Logic 9 always gives me a "Master Fader". Not sure why you
don't have one, but in that thread, Desmond suggested various reasons.
Note
that the "Master Fader" in Logic does something quiet specialised (controls level of
multiple outputs at the same time). You probably don't need this. If you simply want to
control the level of the main Stereo Out, then you just move the Stereo Out fader.
If the Stereo Out fader is no good, can you explain why not ?
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RoastBiff in France
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Re: Creating master Fader, and SOLO Problem.
[Re: chris...]
#974592 - 07/03/12 04:12 PM
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Hi Chris, There is no Stereo Out fader on my Mixer page, or on the Click and Ports page
? There never was in any song I have set up since using Logic ? Maybe somebody
who did the initial Template set-up for me didn't think I would need one because my mixer
was always an outboard one until now. Ooooppsss I've just found one on the Mixer
Page, New/Channel Strip/Master. Great ! Now I need to find out how to get the SOLO
button to actually SOLO the Instrument/Audio Track I'm trying to SOLO ! I
wonder if any of the recent updates have caused these little niggles, the SOLO button
always worked previously.? Cheers.
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chris...
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Re: Creating master Fader, and SOLO Problem.
[Re: RoastBiff in France]
#974600 - 07/03/12 04:48 PM
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Not sure what's wrong with your SOLO. Does the problem occur if you start a fresh song ?
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Re: Creating master Fader, and SOLO Problem.
[Re: RoastBiff in France]
#974609 - 07/03/12 05:51 PM
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Quote RoastBiff in France:
Hi
Chris, There is no Stereo Out fader on my Mixer page, or on the Click and Ports page ?
You said you routed your mix to
a stereo output. Use the fader on that output channel. That's it, don't overthink it.
Quote RoastBiff in France:
Maybe somebody who did the initial Template set-up for me didn't think I would need one
because my mixer was always an outboard one until now.
You mean you never mixed internally to
stereo, but sent individual outputs to your mixer instead?
Quote RoastBiff in France:
Now
I need to find out how to get the SOLO button to actually SOLO the Instrument/Audio Track
I'm trying to SOLO !
Ok, well
it's most likely user error in your mixer routing, not bugs as such. Try option-clicking
the solo button to turn off everything solod, and check your routing. Most likely, when
you are soloing, it's soloing to one output you are not monitoring, or something similar
routing wise.
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RoastBiff in France
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Re: Creating master Fader, and SOLO Problem.
[Re: desmond]
#974681 - 08/03/12 08:54 AM
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Sorry, I meant that all channels in the song were now being output to stereo, not to a
'Stereo Out' fader, that doesn't exist in my Mixer and Click and Port pages. I
thought I had found the solution yesterday when I discovered the 'Master fader' in the
Channel strip section, but IUquickly realised that although this fader will keep the
overall mix levels in trim, I cannot plug anything into this fader if I needed say a tape
saturation plug in over the whole mix ! Previously I have outputted each Logic
channel to outboard converters, like the MOTU 24 I/O via FireWire, and then on to my
outboard mixer. This of course didn't need a Stereo Mix Out Fader within Logic, so I have
never needed to find one. Now I am mixing 'in the box' so to speak, andI need to
find out how to add a 'Stereo Ou't fader to any song that I had previously recorded
without one.
The loss of the Solo facility has happened on my recently recorded
songs in the last 2 weeks, but when I boot up an old song, recorded say from 3/4 years
ago, the Solo button will still not work, in the Arrange Page, or the Mixer and Click and
Ports pages? That's why I'm wondering if recent updates in Logic Pro 9 ( I'm still
on Snow Leopard by the way ) have changed something in my set-up ?
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RoastBiff in France
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Re: Creating master Fader, and SOLO Problem.
[Re: desmond]
#974682 - 08/03/12 08:57 AM
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Sorry, I meant that all channels in the song were now being output to stereo, not to a
'Stereo Out' fader, that doesn't exist in my Mixer or Click and Port pages. I thought
I had found the solution yesterday when I discovered the 'Master fader' in the Channel
strip section, but I quickly realised that although this fader will keep the overall mix
levels in trim, I cannot plug anything into this fader if I needed say a tape saturation
plug in over the whole mix ! Previously I have outputted each Logic channel to
outboard converters, like the MOTU 24 I/O via FireWire, and then on to my outboard mixer.
This of course didn't need a Stereo Mix Out Fader within Logic, so I have never needed to
find one. Now I am mixing 'in the box' so to speak, and I need to find out how to
add a 'Stereo Out' fader to any song that I had previously recorded without one.
The loss of the Solo facility has only just happened on my recently recorded stuff in
the last 2 weeks, but when I boot up an old song, recorded say from 3/4 years ago, the
Solo button will still not work, in the Arrange Page, or the Mixer, and Click and Ports
pages? That's why I'm wondering if recent updates in Logic Pro 9 ( I'm still on Snow
Leopard by the way ) have changed something in my set-up ?
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Bossman
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Re: Creating master Fader, and SOLO Problem.
[Re: RoastBiff in France]
#974684 - 08/03/12 09:22 AM
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to get an output fader Goto the Environment, select the mixer page. Then from
the New menu choose Channel Strip > Output. That should create you a new output fader
for Stereo Out (1&2).
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Bossman
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Re: Creating master Fader, and SOLO Problem.
[Re: RoastBiff in France]
#974692 - 08/03/12 09:58 AM
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re the solo not working Do you have any I/O plugins inserted on any channel
strips. Its the only thing I can think of that might cause Solo to not work
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Bossman
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Re: Creating master Fader, and SOLO Problem.
[Re: Bossman]
#974693 - 08/03/12 10:03 AM
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ah, I think I've figured out the problem with the solo button not working..
when there is no output fader the solo button on the channel strip does not work..
create an output fader and the solo button should work.
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desmond
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Re: Creating master Fader, and SOLO Problem.
[Re: RoastBiff in France]
#974695 - 08/03/12 10:05 AM
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Quote RoastBiff in France:
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thought I had found the solution yesterday when I discovered the 'Master fader' in the
Channel strip section, but IUquickly realised that although this fader will keep the
overall mix levels in trim, I cannot plug anything into this fader if I needed say a tape
saturation plug in over the whole mix !
Yes, the "Master Fader" object is not an audio channel, it's
just a "remote control" for all the stereo output faders in the mixer.
Quote RoastBiff in France:
Previously I have outputted each Logic channel to outboard converters, like the MOTU 24
I/O via FireWire, and then on to my outboard mixer. This of course didn't need a Stereo
Mix Out Fader within Logic, so I have never needed to find one.
Ok, I getcha.
Quote RoastBiff in France:
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I am mixing 'in the box' so to speak, andI need to find out how to add a 'Stereo Ou't
fader to any song that I had previously recorded without one.
Ok, there are a number of ways to do this
- you can go to the environment page, do a New -> Channel Strip -> Output and pick
the output you want to create (all outputs your audio driver reports to OSX will be
displayed here).
But it sounds to me like you are already using outputs in
Logic, you just have them set to mono. So either change an existing mono Output 1 object
into a Stereo Output 1&2 object, or delete those mono ones and recreate stereo
ones.
Quote RoastBiff in
France:
The loss of the Solo facility has happened on my recently
recorded songs in the last 2 weeks, but when I boot up an old song, recorded say from 3/4
years ago, the Solo button will still not work, in the Arrange Page, or the Mixer and
Click and Ports pages?
Hmm. The arrange solo, region solo and mixer solo are all very different functions.
Quote RoastBiff in France:
That's why I'm wondering if recent updates in Logic Pro 9 ( I'm still on Snow Leopard by
the way ) have changed something in my set-up ?
Shouldn't have done, no. However, if you are using
songs/templates from earlier versions of Logic, it's possible some corruption of funkiness
is going on. Try creating a new, fresh blank song in LP9, not loading one of your existing
templates/songs. Do the solo functions work now? How are you soloing - from key commands
or from mouse clicking?
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RoastBiff in France
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Re: Creating master Fader, and SOLO Problem.
[Re: Bossman]
#974802 - 08/03/12 05:34 PM
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Whoopee, Got it ! Both the Stereo output fader, and the Solo buttons are working, Many
Thanks Guys.
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