EdwardjKlitwhisker
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Small vocal PA advice
#977023 - 20/03/12 12:32 PM
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Hi all,
As a quick inteoduction, I'm a Cardiff based FOH engineer, currently on
the road with Kids in Glass Houses.
I just received text message from a friend
asking for advice on what small PA he should buy for small pub gigs where he'll just be
playing acoustic guitar and singing. I think portability is the key as he has a small
hatchback car and wants something thy will fit comfortably in the back. I'm completely out
of touch when it comes to small systems like that so was wondering if any of you guys know
of anything small and reasonably priced at the moment?
Any help would be
greatly appreciated!
Thanks
Mat
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lotek
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He won't go far wrong with this set up, plus speaker stands (and I'd advise soft cases to
protect the car) I carry a similar set up around in a fiat 500, http://www.thomann.de/gb/jbl_eon_510.htm plus http://www.thomann.de/gb/yamaha_mg_82_cx.htm . I've had the same set
up doing 100 gigs plus, a year for over 10 years (using the older versions) ...the new
ones seem to be even better. ... this also looks very interesting . http://www.thomann.de/gb/fishman_soloamp.htm.
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lotek
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this also looks a good deal .. Yamaha rarely make bad equipment, in my opinion. http://www.thomann.de/gb/yamaha_msr_100_bundle.htm
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Gary_W
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If portability is a factor and it's just him doing vocals and guitar, you could just
consider an acoustic guitar amp - all the ones I've seen have a mic input plus guitar
input and plenty also have a line in for backing tracks / CD between sets or whatever. I've had a little Marshall 50w acoustic for a few years. No, it's not as nice as
a PA but for somewhere fairly small where easy of carrying is important then it's fine. For acoustic amps, AER have a great reputation but you'll be looking at £700 ish
for a tiny little thing that (apparently) sound great. But under a couple of hundred
quid is your starting point for acoustic amps so might be worth a look for him 
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James Perrett
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I've been very impressed with the Yamaha StagePAS300 system. Very compact yet it sounds
bigger than it looks. James.
-------------------- JRP Music - Audio Mastering and Restoration.
http://www.jrpmusic.net
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shufflebeat
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Loc: Manchester, UK
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The 12" version of this:
soundonsound.com/sos/dec11/articles/ato-truesonic-115a.htm
I've got some of
the Yamahas and while they're just as good as Lotek and James say the Altos are better,
cheaper, louder.
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Ohm's Law states, "Your PA isn't as powerful as you think it is".
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grab
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Loc: Cambridge, UK
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Re: Small vocal PA advice
[Re: Gary_W]
#977087 - 20/03/12 05:08 PM
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We used to use our guitarist's AE50 acoustic amp for vocals during practises. Vocals
sounded utterly crap, and we had no end of grief with feedback. In the end I said bollox
to it and started bringing the monitor wedges, smaller PA amp and small mixer. Suddenly
the vocals sounded OK again, and we no longer had a problem with feedback...
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Mike Stranks
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Loc: Oxford, UK
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This could be worth investigating: LD
Dave 8 XS The other models in the 'Dave' range are generally well
thought-of: LD Dave - Paul White Review Otherwise, I agree with James
about the Yamaha StagePAS 300. Very good for the money.
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Bob Bickerton
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As James says the Yamaha Stagepas 300 is very good for the price and punches above its
weight, but may struggle over a pub crowd. I've used one extensively for concert work in
schools. Actually I don't much like the bigger Yamaha systems. I'd suggest the
QSC K12s as an ideal solution. Portable, powerful and they sound fantastic for acoustic
music. They are really very good. Bob
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Guy Johnson
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I can attest that AERs sound really good with a mic, especially a condenser. I'm tempted
to get one myself, just for a really small, simple PA for guitar and voice. Other than that, smaller (vocal PA) speakers generally sound sweeter than bigger ones,
which is neat in the fitting into cars, and awkward gigs as well.
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