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Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games'
      #978387 - 27/03/12 11:05 AM
This is the most captivating thing I’ve heard in the charts for months, a production that instantly grabs you with its tangential instrumentation, a vocal so languid it’s borderline medicated, and a lyric of unspoken heartbreak. However, like almost all music that really stays with me, it’s also replete with buried treasure.

Take the basic two-bar idea that underpins the verses (0:19 and 1:46). It catches the ear straight away, not only because of its unusual parallel chord motion and alternating minor/major pattern, but also because of the way the harmonic rhythm grinds to a halt part-way through the second bar each time. For me it provides a further subliminal effect over the longer term by virtue of appearing in two variants: the simpler F#m-A-F#m-A-C#m-D pattern, and a slightly more closed version which returns to F# minor on the third beat of bar two. This causes a distinct ebb and flow whenever the two versions of this idea are combined into a four-bar unit, but then once we’re past the second chorus the remaining iterations feature only the second, more resolved variant — once at 3:04, and then twice to conclude proceedings at 3:39. (If you listen to the YouTube version, this may not make sense — I’m referring to the shorter radio edit!)

The chorus harmonies are very effective too, first giving a strong suggestion of a IV-I cadence in A-major, but then flatly contradicting it with the queasy G-F#m parallel motion. Plus I’ve always been a sucker for exposed tritones, and the one that ends the chorus is a real humdinger — although, ironically, this starkly unstable chord provides about the closest thing we get to a traditional V-I tonal cadence in an otherwise rather modal landscape.

It’s a remarkably irregular structure for a popular song too, bringing a palpable sense of unease (suspense even) to the listening experience. As I hear it, you’ve got a nine-bar verse, a couple of bars of pre-chorus, and a nine-bar chorus (contracting to five bars later on), with the piano’s chordal riff providing four bars of intro and outro as well as two-bar ‘re-intros’ before verse two and the final chorus. While this structure would doubtless have been drowned at birth by pretty much any self-respecting mainstream hit-smith, its success is undeniable in this context, brilliantly reinforcing the vocal’s emotional ambiguity — a fantastic example of a songwriter defying well-established conventions for the very best of reasons.

As for general production touches, the more you look, the more beautiful little details you find. The organic raggedness of the harp ripples; the momentary double-tracking of the first “Is that true?”; the understated pizzicato arpeggios from 1:51 — nothing you haven’t heard a thousand times before, but nonetheless cast in a fresh light here. And let us not forget the subtle background special-effect noises, which contribute so much to the cinematic atmosphere. Notice the ethereal C# pad behind the opening bells and the modulated background noisescapes which then surround the added piano, harp and strings as the introduction unfolds, then move ahead to the second verse, where these elements surface more prominently. I particularly like the noise-fed filter sweeps at 1:31 and 3:10, but my favourite bit of fairy dust is the subtle out-of-sync arcade-style rhythm sequence sneaking in at 1:38, 2:03, and 3:05 — a bit of direct word-painting uncheapened by any direct overlay on the actual “video games” lyric. This atmospheric method of filling out your arrangement is all over TV and game soundtracks, but in the music field most SOS readers still don’t seem to appreciate its power. To quote the song: “Baby, now you do.”

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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: Mike Senior]
      #978388 - 27/03/12 11:16 AM
I reviewed this track from the NOW 80 collection, which doesn't really give any credits. However, if you've worked your way through this month's magazine as far as The Mix Review, then you should already have seen the big feature about how this track was made, featuring its producers Daniel Omelio and Brandon Lowry.

As you can imagine, given my glowing endorsement of this production in the main critique, few people can have been more delighted than me to have seen the Omelio/Lowry article, which nailed down a lot of things that I was only able to take educated guesses at while doing my critique (I did that write-up before the other article was submitted). Lots of things stood out for me, in particular the attention to detail with the piano and harp programming, the chained vocal compression, the mention of using sample-CD snippets for inter-phrase interest given the slow tempo, and the discussion about how they comped Lana's vocal to favour earlier takes.

It was also interesting to discover that the release version wasn't ever officially 'mixed', because although there's an undeniable magic to it I do find myself niggled by a few technical things myself. Firstly, there's a very hard-sounding 'click' on the final-chorus downbeats at 3:08-3:32, presumably part of the rhythm programming -- although it always sounds to me like a bad edit first time it happens! Whatever it is, it just sounds so dry and upfront in the context of this otherwise well-blended and heavily-reverbed mix that it's distractingly incongruous for me.

And speaking of reverb, I noticed that Omelio mentioned about the vocal reverb being a bit unrefined, and I'd concur with that I think. It does give the vocal a signature sound, which is very much to its credit, but it feels like its distancing Lana a bit too much in my view, especially during the choruses. It's hardly a disaster, clearly, especially given the overwhelming dominance of the lead vocal in terms of level, but it sounds to me as if some slightly more detailed return-channel EQ might have paid dividends here without killing the inherent nature of the effect -- in fact, it might actually have allowed the effect even more subjective prominence in the final balance if that had been felt to be desirable. I'd have also liked to hear the lyrics a bit more clearly, something that additional lead-vocal automation work could have delivered I reckon.

Aside from the mixing, there are also a couple of harmonic things that bug me slightly. One of them is probably just me being too much of a traditionalist, but the retention of the D chord across the phrase boundary "Honey is that true? / It's better than I even..." just feels a bit weak somehow. In addition, I find the suggestion of bass pitch in the sub-bass boom sound (first heard at 2:21) slightly off-putting. Is it an F# it starts on? Whatever it is, it feels like it over-eggs the shiftiness already inherent in this song's harmonies for me. With both of these things, though, you could just as easily argue that it's all part of the appeal, so have another listen for yourself to decide whether I'm just being a picky old curmudgeon.

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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: Mike Senior]
      #978714 - 28/03/12 12:56 PM
Excellent job Mike. Great piece.

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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: Mike Senior]
      #978721 - 28/03/12 01:18 PM
Sublime. I'm still listening to this version, there's a secial magic that i'm not hearing on the release version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPb6O52_rYU&feature=related


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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: Mike Senior]
      #978797 - 28/03/12 10:49 PM
Quote Mike Senior:

the simpler F#m-G-F#m-G-C#m-D pattern




I get A major, not G, in that pattern.

Gorgeous track.

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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: ]
      #978798 - 28/03/12 11:00 PM
Quote ow:

Sublime. I'm still listening to this version, there's a secial magic that i'm not hearing on the release version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPb6O52_rYU&feature=related




This version exposes lots of pitch and placement inconsistencies for me - it doesn't sound like she has great control over her transitions between her registers. It might be done for stylistic reasons, but I'm not convinced. I wonder if she's had any formal training?

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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: Mike Senior]
      #978805 - 28/03/12 11:40 PM
Yeah, I'm really beginning to love this. Its easy to just shut stuff out that feels like hype, but most of Mikes sentiments here hold true I think.

The lilting rythyms and odd phrase lengths do seam completely at odds with cookie cutter pop, it is a popular track that is actually musically interesting and engaging, its not at all dependent on the hyperactive fizzy tricks heard in euro influenced R'n'B say. But it does reveal how the technology and tricks of today can be used to make anything - a computer really is a blank canvass. You can come out sounding like this - or Skrillex.

Its a classic.

The fact that this can exist along with mad hyper U.S Dubstep say, for contrast, shows that pretty much anything goes these days in music, its there for the taking if you want it.

Just be good and have a vision - the tools are on the table for everyone.

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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: Adam Inglis]
      #978816 - 29/03/12 05:55 AM
Quote Adam Inglis:

Quote Mike Senior:

the simpler F#m-G-F#m-G-C#m-D pattern



I get A major, not G, in that pattern.




You're absolutely right. Slip of the QWERTY! I'll see if I can get the original post (and the web article) edited.

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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: Mike Senior]
      #978838 - 29/03/12 08:13 AM
Quote Mike Senior:

Quote Adam Inglis:

Quote Mike Senior:

the simpler F#m-G-F#m-G-C#m-D pattern



I get A major, not G, in that pattern.




You're absolutely right. Slip of the QWERTY! I'll see if I can get the original post (and the web article) edited.




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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: Adam Inglis]
      #978847 - 29/03/12 08:33 AM
Quote Adam Inglis:

This version exposes lots of pitch and placement inconsistencies for me - it doesn't sound like she has great control over her transitions between her registers.




Yeah, up high her voice was -- while still nice -- sounding a bit silly. I doubt she wanted it to sound quite like that.


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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: Scramble]
      #978850 - 29/03/12 08:52 AM
Quote Adam Inglis:

This version exposes lots of pitch and placement inconsistencies for me - it doesn't sound like she has great control over her transitions between her registers.




The new arrangement doesn't do that version any favours either, I don't think. Nice string sounds, but they couldn't quite agree with the pianist on the best harmonies, or indeed what the original harmonies might have been. I'll stick with the record...

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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: Adam Inglis]
      #978852 - 29/03/12 08:52 AM
Quote Adam Inglis:

Quote ow:

Sublime. I'm still listening to this version, there's a secial magic that i'm not hearing on the release version.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPb6O52_rYU&feature=related




This version exposes lots of pitch and placement inconsistencies for me - it doesn't sound like she has great control over her transitions between her registers. It might be done for stylistic reasons, but I'm not convinced. I wonder if she's had any formal training?




Thank god! thank God! Something in the charts that is real and not sterile. When did these rules about vocal perfection get set in stone. I am fed up with hearing the same old tutored 'from the Diaphragm' pap let have a little more Soul in our singers, real soul an expression of their soul, not just playing out 'the way it should be Done'

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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: Shambolic Charm]
      #978864 - 29/03/12 09:34 AM
Quote Shambolic Charm:

Thank god! thank God! Something in the charts that is real and not sterile. When did these rules about vocal perfection get set in stone. I am fed up with hearing the same old tutored 'from the Diaphragm' pap let have a little more Soul in our singers, real soul an expression of their soul, not just playing out 'the way it should be Done'




But this version isn't the one in the charts.


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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: Shambolic Charm]
      #978885 - 29/03/12 11:20 AM
Quote Shambolic Charm:

Thank god! thank God! Something in the charts that is real and not sterile. When did these rules about vocal perfection get set in stone. I am fed up with hearing the same old tutored 'from the Diaphragm' pap let have a little more Soul in our singers, real soul an expression of their soul, not just playing out 'the way it should be Done'




there is a distinction between "not caring about the rules" and "sounding good" though...

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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: Scramble]
      #978918 - 29/03/12 01:35 PM
Quote Scramble:

Quote Shambolic Charm:

Thank god! thank God! Something in the charts that is real and not sterile. When did these rules about vocal perfection get set in stone. I am fed up with hearing the same old tutored 'from the Diaphragm' pap let have a little more Soul in our singers, real soul an expression of their soul, not just playing out 'the way it should be Done'




But this version isn't the one in the charts.




No it isn't. I just happen to prefer the Joolz version that the release version. That was the first time i'd ever heard or heard of her and i was completely captivated by the performance. The recorded version just doesn't do it for me.

Everyone to their own though.


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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: ]
      #978919 - 29/03/12 01:38 PM
Quote ow:

Quote Scramble:

Quote Shambolic Charm:

Thank god! thank God! Something in the charts that is real and not sterile. When did these rules about vocal perfection get set in stone. I am fed up with hearing the same old tutored 'from the Diaphragm' pap let have a little more Soul in our singers, real soul an expression of their soul, not just playing out 'the way it should be Done'




But this version isn't the one in the charts.




No it isn't. I just happen to prefer the Joolz version that the release version. That was the first time i'd ever heard or heard of her and i was completely captivated by the performance. The recorded version just doesn't do it for me.

Everyone to their own though.




I wasn't making a claim about which was better.


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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: Scramble]
      #978921 - 29/03/12 01:50 PM
"better" is a hard one in art. Interesting question ealier - "When did these rules about vocal perfection get set in stone." ?

Dunno, when did any of it get set i stone? I suppose when artists started asking and people who think they know started answering and probably more likely when technology started to play such a huge part in people's enjoyment of music. Then you have "new faces" and it's children (x-factor etc) where experts make judgement and tell punters what they should like.

Critics i suppose, filtering what's hot and what's not.


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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: onesecondglance]
      #978923 - 29/03/12 01:59 PM
Quote onesecondglance:

Quote Shambolic Charm:

Thank god! thank God! Something in the charts that is real and not sterile. When did these rules about vocal perfection get set in stone. I am fed up with hearing the same old tutored 'from the Diaphragm' pap let have a little more Soul in our singers, real soul an expression of their soul, not just playing out 'the way it should be Done'




there is a distinction between "not caring about the rules" and "sounding good" though...




Well plenty of people are happy to hear her sing so I guess she sounds 'good' to them. My point is the history of pop is full of singers that are not pitch perfect. Lou Reed can't hold a note live to save his life, so that means he doesn't sound good? when was this decided? Does it mean we must exclude those greats from the past who struggled with pitch, or didn't bother either way? Give me imperfect over mediocre or 'as it should be' any time. As you may have guessed, I am getting really fed up with this current day obsession with pitch perfect etc. I even hear people quoting the likes of X-factor, "ooh that's was a bit pitchy"
So to conclude there is a big distinction between "following the rules" and sounding 'good' and its one hell of a distinction.

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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: Chaconne]
      #978950 - 29/03/12 04:38 PM
Is it inappropriate for me to mention that she has been backed by her millionaire father and a lot of extremely savvy marketing campaigns?


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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: J_Naylor4]
      #978958 - 29/03/12 05:06 PM
Not inappropriate - just irrelevant. Artists signed by a label are backed by the label's money and the label's marketing department. The UK band "Hamfatter" even went on a TV show to get some money off a venture capitalist. How does the source of their funding relate to the quality of their music?


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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: J_Naylor4]
      #978966 - 29/03/12 05:45 PM
Quote J_Naylor4:

Is it inappropriate for me to mention that she has been backed by her millionaire father and a lot of extremely savvy marketing campaigns?




Damn her for picking to be born to rich parents. She's a nice girl with a great voice. Your comments are highly unoriginal and extremely mean spirited.


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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: grab]
      #978967 - 29/03/12 05:49 PM
Quote grab:

Not inappropriate - just irrelevant. Artists signed by a label are backed by the label's money and the label's marketing department. How does the source of their funding relate to the quality of their music?




Without significant marketing, we might not be aware of LDR let alone have the opportunity to dissect her music. And, like it or not, her (manufactured) image does affect how her music is perceived by the wider public.

Personally, I think she's a pretty girl with an OK voice who has been over hyped.But to each their own.


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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: johnny h]
      #978973 - 29/03/12 06:43 PM
Re Grab and johnny h:

I think you missed my point somewhat - as Phil O mentions above, I was hinting at the potentially manufactured nature of her music and image. i.e. the money perhaps enabled her to pay for a good songwriter and good producer who created all the fantastic detail in the mix we're all raving about.

This Guardian article makes for quite interesting reading.

Regardless, this is the Production/ Mixing forum, so I apologise for bringing up extra-musical issues and let's get back to critiquing the production!

For my two bob: I like the overall sound (and it is clearly a massive hit, so who am I to argue?) but I feel the mix looses momentum a bit half way through and could even do with a slight increase in tempo/ intensity towards the end. Not entirely convinced by the string parts either. Having said that, there are some great details throughout and as Mike says, some awesome background noises.


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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: J_Naylor4]
      #978988 - 29/03/12 07:53 PM
>the mix looses momentum

"Looses"? Have I taught you people nothing?



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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: Scramble]
      #978997 - 29/03/12 08:32 PM
I'll blame a slight finger stutter on the o for that...


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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: J_Naylor4]
      #979013 - 29/03/12 09:21 PM
Manufactured? Like Quincy Jones manufactured Michael Jackson? Or Butch Vig manufactured Nirvana?

Or image-wise, there's Lily Allen, who's not just a rich girl who absolutely cops that attitude for the stage show, but is also a rich girl with a daddy in the music biz, a mummy who's a film producer, and hung out with Joe Strummer as a kid. And who tried to put across folk songs in her first crack at music. I don't remember her getting flak for that.

And on marketing, there's Lady Gaga, Florence and the Machine, or Madonna. Nuff said there.

Anyway, it's a pop record. What were folk expecting...?


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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: grab]
      #979018 - 29/03/12 10:03 PM
It is a bit affected, but generally heartfelt, I think (she apparently wrote the lyrics about an old boyfriend).

There's a big difference between the US and UK on this matter (if you'll allow some crass over-generalizations). In the UK it's like you have to be affected to get anywhere. Nobody gives a toss in the UK *unless* you wear make-up and are part of a new underground movement and talk like a 2nd year Art student. Whereas in the US they like you to be -- or, more accurately, *seem* -- genuine and unaffected. So her 'genuineness' is a big issue in the States, whereas here we don't care so much that she's trying a little too hard with the persona. (I always go down better myself on stage when I do my "dressing-like-Alfred-Jarry-in-his-'Ubu'-phase").


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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: Mike Senior]
      #979026 - 29/03/12 11:04 PM
Quote Mike Senior:

but my favourite bit of fairy dust is the subtle out-of-sync arcade-style rhythm sequence sneaking in at 1:38, 2:03, and 3:05




I love the Mix Review for encouraging me to listen to music I wouldn't normally encounter in a month of Sundays.

But I've listened to both the 4:01 Radio edit version and the 4:44 Now 80 version over and over, and I just can't hear the "arcade-style sequence" at those points in the track.

I'm tempted to just write this off as an April Fool, but it's still March. The alternative conclusion, that I'm going selectively deaf or just not playing it loud enough, is not something I'd like to consider.

The zither in the second chorus is nice though.


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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: Mike Senior]
      #979040 - 30/03/12 12:59 AM
Yeah me to - I'm a bit stuck with this.

I suppose i was listening out for some super nintendo type, 8-bit bloops and bleeps, but failed.
I dont want to make it a big deal, just curious....

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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: Mike Senior]
      #979054 - 30/03/12 07:03 AM
Quote Mike Senior:

the retention of the D chord across the phrase boundary "Honey is that true? / It's better than I even..." just feels a bit weak somehow.




Interesting, I play this song quite a lot and that bit always feels sticky to me. There's just too much D, and keeping the tension starts to rely on production/playing style rather than chord structure, which is something I find irritating in a song. It's a bit "soft rock". Definitely still a 9 1/2 out of ten for writing from me though.

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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: Graculus]
      #979056 - 30/03/12 07:35 AM
Quote Graculus:

Quote Mike Senior:

but my favourite bit of fairy dust is the subtle out-of-sync arcade-style rhythm sequence sneaking in at 1:38, 2:03, and 3:05




But I've listened to both the 4:01 Radio edit version and the 4:44 Now 80 version over and over, and I just can't hear the "arcade-style sequence" at those points in the track.




I've just been into the studio and double-checked it, and the times are definitely right. The 4:01 version of the song that's on NOW 80 is the one I'm referring to with the timings. The first one happens just after the first chorus's final lyric "Baby now you do". The second is just after "this is all I think of" in the second verse. The third is again after "Baby now you do" at the end of chorus two.

I've just checked the 4:50 video version I can find on Youtube as well, and that's got all of those in there too. The sound is a kind of high-frequency digital twittering that's very wide in the stereo image.

Either that, or I have a very bizarre form of tinnitus.

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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: molecular]
      #979057 - 30/03/12 07:37 AM
Quote molecular:

Interesting, I play this song quite a lot and that bit always feels sticky to me. There's just too much D, and keeping the tension starts to rely on production/playing style rather than chord structure, which is something I find irritating in a song.




Glad it's not just me.

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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: Scramble]
      #979075 - 30/03/12 08:26 AM
Quote Scramble:

It is a bit affected, but generally heartfelt, I think (she apparently wrote the lyrics about an old boyfriend).




I thought the song was comment on the the USA's involvement in the middle east and the use of remote operated drones by young men in computer centres and changes in the average American's perception of 'right' during and post Bush administration as defined by a telvised war and propoganda machine.

That's what i'm hearing anyway.


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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: Mike Senior]
      #979104 - 30/03/12 09:33 AM
No Tinitus - I hear it too Not only on my speakers here but also in the car so it's fairly obvious. I must confess I hadn't noticed it until you mentioned it but now it's known about it's hard to miss.

I would have prefered it if it was the 'diving alien' sound from 'Galaxians' but you can't have everything can you?

I like this a lot. I'm just getting the heartbreak bit, certainly not a political song IMO - that hadn't crossed my mind until brought up in this thread and I still don't see it TBH.


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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: Gary_W]
      #979113 - 30/03/12 10:21 AM
Quote Gary_W:

No Tinitus - I hear it too Not only on my speakers here but also in the car so it's fairly obvious. I must confess I hadn't noticed it until you mentioned it but now it's known about it's hard to miss.



It's extremely obvious in headphones. It's been through an autopanner, so it sticks out like a sore thumb.

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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: Mike Senior]
      #979122 - 30/03/12 10:41 AM
Each to there own I guess but i really don't 'get' this song. i know its pop music and its all a little try hardy, but i just find this tune a bit pretentious, like trying to hard to be different.. Adele got very very far by just being herself, pop stars should take note of that!


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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: chew_rocket]
      #979124 - 30/03/12 10:43 AM
It's why i like the Joolz version. It's pre-poppiness and far more smokey jazz club, where it fits well.


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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: Mike Senior]
      #979128 - 30/03/12 10:57 AM
Just listened to the Jules performance myself and agree its much better than the record. They should have done a recording of that and released it, I believe I might have been a fan then


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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: Shambolic Charm]
      #979149 - 30/03/12 12:43 PM
Quote Shambolic Charm:

I am fed up with hearing the same old tutored 'from the Diaphragm' pap let have a little more Soul in our singers, real soul an expression of their soul, not just playing out 'the way it should be Done'




I wasn't suggesting so much "the way it should be done" perhaps as the "way the song calls for it to be done". Human frailties heard in a vocal can be so much more effective when placed where a song can use them best, rather than randomly.

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Re: Lana Del Rey: 'Video Games' new [Re: Mike Senior]
      #979162 - 30/03/12 01:32 PM
.. and here is an example of the vocal frailties working in favour of the song.
This is another live (?) version of the same track
http://youtu.be/Yu9V3Phfsf8
There are "mistakes", but much easier to forgive when the performance is so much more convincing.
And there is better control too - listen to her breathy fragile delivery of the line "Honey is that true?" twice in this version.

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