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PCI/Firewire /USB audio interface minefield
#979523 - 01/04/12 01:25 PM
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Hi
I'm giving my Terratec DMX 6 fire one last chance to work on Windows 7 64
bit before I ditch it for a new one; but what to choose to replace it.
I'm
still stuck on the idea of a PCI or PCI express card but there seems very little choice
around the £200 mark. Most of the non high end cards in the low latency perforance
thread seem to be firewire or USB.
I need at least two mic preamps
preferably three plus a couple of other prefeably balanced line ins. I also would
like reasonably low latency performance for playing soft synths.
The only one
that might fit the bill is the E-MU 1616m PCIe since it has 2 preamps and 6 line
ins. However its quite old now and I'm not sure how the sound quality compares with more
modern interfaces and whether it will work with Windows 7 64bit.
Alternatively
M-Audio ProFire 610 is an option since my motherboard has a TI firewire chip, but I'm
not sure about the future compatibility of firewire divices I'm put off the
Focusright Saffire and Scrlett cards as the low latency performance seems rather
poor. The AKAI EIE Pro seems good on features but there are no reviews and it seems as though no one has ever bought one. I thought the Roland Quad capture was ideal at
first until I relised two of the four inputs are spdif and I can't use these. The NI
Komplete Audio 6 looks good and scores well in the low latency tests but I'm not sure
about how good the preamps are.
Has anyone tried any of these or have
and other suggestions?
Any help will be much appreciated.
Cheers Callum
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Re: PCI/Firewire /USB audio interface minefield
[Re: 1Cal]
#979526 - 01/04/12 01:58 PM
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What about MOTU you can pick an 828Mk2 or 3 fairly cheap these day. They seem to have a
good reputation, certainly the Focusrite preamps get consistently good thing said about
them on here, in fact I do not think I have heard a bad word about them other than all the
gain being at the far end of the range.
Have a look on readers ads there are
few on there that may fit the bill or at least inspire research.
Edited by DAGGILARR (01/04/12 02:10 PM)
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Re: PCI/Firewire /USB audio interface minefield
[Re: 1Cal]
#979554 - 01/04/12 05:36 PM
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I'm in a similar situation myself having just bought a Win7 PCIe machine. Bye bye PCI. I
came across one of these. An Alva Nanoface.
From what I've read, the converters
and preamps are up to scratch and the drivers are first class.
There is word on the
interweb that the e-mu (PCIe cards) win7 drivers are not good enough. I was considering
the 0404 PCIe (going for half RRP at the mo) until I read that e-mu had no plans for these
'older' cards.
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Edited by Hamund (01/04/12 06:22 PM)
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Exalted Wombat
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Re: PCI/Firewire /USB audio interface minefield
[Re: 1Cal]
#979566 - 01/04/12 07:05 PM
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Do the mic preamps have to be integral to the sound card? A multi-port card with just
Line In and Out plus a small mixer gives you a lot more choices, and a lot more
flexibility in working.
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twotoedsloth
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Re: PCI/Firewire /USB audio interface minefield
[Re: Hamund]
#979571 - 01/04/12 07:40 PM
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I wonder if RME is going to sue the Alva Nanoface folks... they even stole the name!
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Re: PCI/Firewire /USB audio interface minefield
[Re: twotoedsloth]
#979584 - 01/04/12 09:06 PM
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Quote twotoedsloth:
I wonder if
RME is going to sue the Alva Nanoface folks... they even stole the name!
RME and Alva are pals. They work together. My
guess is that's where the duper driver comes from.
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Re: PCI/Firewire /USB audio interface minefield
[Re: 1Cal]
#979590 - 01/04/12 10:06 PM
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Hi Callum,
I have a Komplete 6 (and an M-A Fastrack pro and two PCs each with a
2496 fed from an A&H ZED10)
The K6 preamps are very, very clean, at least
as clean as the A&H. One could wish for another 10dB of gain but in truth for low
output mics like my SM57 there is not a lot in it between those and the ZED10. I can
connect the 57, slam the gain to max and comfortably get quiet guitar picking to run at
-18dBFS and the "house" noise is the noise floor, even at 2am.
I have not yet
tried the MIDI latency but will check that as best I can if you like, in fact I have had
the AI since Crimble but have been a bit poorly and have not really come to grips except
to say absolutely no problems so far.
I wonder why you would pay the extra for
Fwire for the low I/O count you need? I think the Komplete A6 is the best AI around in the
£200 area and I know I am not the only one here to think so. Any chance of a review
SoS?
Dave.
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Re: PCI/Firewire /USB audio interface minefield
[Re: 1Cal]
#979664 - 02/04/12 09:36 AM
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Quote 1Cal:
I'm giving my
Terratec DMX 6 fire one last chance to work on Windows 7 64 bit before I
ditch it
for a new one; but what to choose to replace it.
I couldn't get mine running stable on XP,
so I'll be stunned if Win7 works for you!
Quote 1Cal:
I'm still stuck on the idea of a PCI or
PCI express card but there seems very little choice
around the £200 mark. Most of
the non high end cards in the low latency perforance thread
seem to be firewire or
USB.
KA6 for me at
that price point.
Quote
1Cal:
Alternatively M-Audio ProFire 610 is an option since my
motherboard has a TI firewire chip,
but I'm not sure about the future compatibility
of firewire divices
Suprisingly good interface for it's age. Perhaps better than the option above, but you
have the problem of FW support drying up, so it is effectively a interface at the end of
its live cycle.
Quote
twotoedsloth:
I wonder if RME is going to sue the Alva Nanoface folks...
they even stole the name!
I wondered the same, but it look like the distro in the UK at least is the same as RME's
which would suggest that the two companies are already well aquainted.
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Pete Kaine
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Re: PCI/Firewire /USB audio interface minefield
[Re: Pete Kaine]
#979684 - 02/04/12 10:39 AM
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RME forum comments on the Nanoface.
http://www.rme-audio.de/forum/viewtopic.php?id=10854
So
don't expect it to behave like the RME stuff.
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Re: PCI/Firewire /USB audio interface minefield
[Re: 1Cal]
#979817 - 02/04/12 08:03 PM
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Hi There, I've been using the E-MU 1010 with the 1616m and I like it so much
I've just upgraded from the PCI to the PCIe card version, the latter being compatible with
Windows 7 Pro 64 bit. I think the sound quality is excellent. See my other comments on
another related thread regarding setup on Windows 7: E-MU thread on Sound-on-Sound Regards Toby
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