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Dishpan



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New virus/malware in the wild new
      #980058 - 04/04/12 10:11 AM
Just a heads up:

https://discussions.apple.com/message/18034369#18034369

I'm infected despite running nothing. Apply have finally released a Java fix (it was patched on Windows and other OS's in February!!) but it does nothing for the people infected. Worse still, if you're not running little snitch or other network monitor you won't even know you have it. Not sure exactly what it does yet! Also, the fix won't work for a lot of older version (10.6.5 for example) so if you're running one of those you're stuffed!.


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Richie Royale



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Re: New virus/malware in the wild new [Re: Dishpan]
      #980077 - 04/04/12 10:48 AM
Presumably this is a SL thing? I'll see if there is anything on mine later, but my Macs are on 10.5.

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Dave Rowles



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Re: New virus/malware in the wild new [Re: Richie Royale]
      #980228 - 04/04/12 09:02 PM
I've not noticed anything going wrong on my mac, but have been getting a load more spam emails recently. Might not be related, but downloaded Little Snitch again, and waiting to see if anything shows up.

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Dishpan



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Re: New virus/malware in the wild new [Re: Richie Royale]
      #980287 - 05/04/12 07:38 AM
> Presumably this is a SL thing? I'll see if there is anything on mine later, but my Macs are on 10.5.

I'm on Lion so it's not just SL. The point they were making in the post I linked to was that Apple won't allow you to install the Java fix on some older versions of OsX which is quite appalling if true. If they fixed their damn software when everyone else did then this wouldn't have happened.

I've waited a couple of days but looks like there's no fix for those infected so I'm gonna have to do the wipe and reinstall...


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ConcertinaChap



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Re: New virus/malware in the wild new [Re: Dishpan]
      #980311 - 05/04/12 09:13 AM
Dragonlogos has put this link up for disinfection. Try that first.

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Dishpan



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Re: New virus/malware in the wild [Re: ConcertinaChap]
      #980312 - 05/04/12 09:23 AM
Doesn't work; as I said this is a new one although it's probably related. None of the steps in that link work and (as far as I'm aware), there's no guaranteed way to ensure it's gone other than a full reinstall of everything :-(


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DragonLogos
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Re: New virus/malware in the wild new [Re: Dishpan]
      #980324 - 05/04/12 09:56 AM
Maybe give the people at F-secure a buzz so that they can get a handle on it

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fletcher



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Re: New virus/malware in the wild new [Re: Dishpan]
      #980329 - 05/04/12 10:08 AM
thanks for bringing this to our attention. My computer seems clean but my son's had the older one. The clean up procedure seems to have worked. As to the newer one in the other thread, I ran the 3 hour trial of little snitch and nothing showed up. Since then I have switched off the enable Java on my computers as this seems to be the way in for these things. I noticed there is no fix for any system older than snow, and the computer guys were all saying it's best left turned off. I notice Lion comes with Java off as default.

I will get my son to install little snitch tonight to see if he has the newer one. Is there any other way to find out if your infected?

thanks again


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Re: New virus/malware in the wild new [Re: fletcher]
      #980344 - 05/04/12 10:50 AM
Some additional info here, with commands that can be run in terminal to check for infection.

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-57403430-263/detecting-and-removing-t he-flashback-malware-in-os-x/?tag=mncol;txt


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fletcher



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Re: New virus/malware in the wild new [Re: Andy W]
      #980353 - 05/04/12 11:21 AM
yes, that also mentions to turn off java in the utilities folder.

I think this is the older malware problem however, not for the new one.


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DAGGILARR



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Re: New virus/malware in the wild new [Re: Dishpan]
      #980440 - 05/04/12 05:03 PM
So is it time to get protection software ? if so what ?

I guess its got to happen at some point.

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twotoedsloth



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Re: New virus/malware in the wild new [Re: Dishpan]
      #980448 - 05/04/12 05:48 PM
I agree, it was bound to happen sooner or later. I'm running Symantec Anti-virus, and it's more or less transparent, I don't notice it at all on my MBA. I've been running antivirus software for several years now against the eventuality of a serious OSX virus.


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ConcertinaChap



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Re: New virus/malware in the wild new [Re: DAGGILARR]
      #980485 - 05/04/12 08:08 PM
Quote DAGGILARR:

So is it time to get protection software ? if so what ?




I've been living with Sophos Anti-Virus for a while, and it has caused no problems, comes from one of the more reputable AV software houses and is free. Only reason I can see for not using it (or some equally good products from other companies) is religious conviction.

At this point I'm bailing out of this discussion too before it goes the way of the other thread on the subject. See you on the other side!

CC

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Re: New virus/malware in the wild new [Re: ConcertinaChap]
      #980643 - 06/04/12 03:01 PM
I think it is time to install some anti virus on my mac, going to try sophos as it's free.

What I would like to know is can I set the anti virus to only work within one user account so as to leave as many resources free on the music account. I don't have the most modern of computers so I think this is necessary. Don't have any additional background things running in music account, but all sort of useful things in every day account.

I remember a company I worked for installed Norton on a mac they had bought for running sound and video for live shows. When I came to work on their next production there was no way of disabling it within the user account for shows.

Thanks


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Re: New virus/malware in the wild new [Re: LimitedHeadroom]
      #980680 - 06/04/12 07:16 PM
OK, I'll dip back in again because I can answer this. Sophos Anti Virus runs for all users at all times; however it is a pretty light weight process and bits of it can be turned off. There is a discussion on the Sophos forum here specifically about installing it on a Mac used for audio work.

I personally have had no problems from it after a year's worth of use but I guess you'll have to decide for yourself if it meets your needs. There are instructions on the forum on how to uninstall it should you decide to.

CC

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Re: New virus/malware in the wild new [Re: ConcertinaChap]
      #980729 - 07/04/12 01:18 AM
Thanks. I'm going to give it a go.


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