Mike Sullivan
Joined: 31/12/07
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Loc: Ashland, KY, USA
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Cheap powered monitors (US)
#982714 - 17/04/12 04:46 PM
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First, and foremost, I'm in the US...as always, lol. I'm looking at purchasing 2-4 floor
monitors to keep on hand in the event of a band gig (which is happening more often, and I
hate having to borrow/rent monitors), and money isn't in high demand right now (but things
are changing with this new bar gig). Here are a couple of options I looked at... http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/F1320D - Behringer F1320D,
$279 Features: 12" woofer, 1" horn, 200w RMS, 300w peak (Berry ratings) Likes:
Front panel connections/EQ http://www.zzounds.com/item--GMNGVX12P - Gemini GVX12P, $349 Features, 12" woofer, 1" horn, 500w RMS (bi-amped, 420w low, 80w high) There
are a few other solutions I'm looking at, but just trying to find a set to get me by for
the time being. Behringer's name has been slowly coming up in the pro speaker world, and
I've heard good things about their powered monitors for the price. Gemini has really
changed their lot around with the GVX and RS series, and it seems the GVX was designed for
multi-purpose live use in mind (the cabinets are sloped for monitor use I assume). Anyone ever use any of these? I'm not sure what sort of access you have there in
Europe, but if anyone has any opinions themselves, let me know. I may order 1+1 and A/B
them myself and with a couple of my friends to see what they think, and send back
whichever one I don't like.
-------------------- Ice Cold Entertainment DJ/Live Sound Services Ashland, KY, USA
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Zaxx
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Re: Cheap powered monitors (US)
[Re: Mike Sullivan]
#982845 - 18/04/12 11:48 AM
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Not quite what you want to know, but in terms of brands I've been using Behringer powered
studio monitors for a couple of years now with excellent results. Certainly in the UK -
maybe in the US too? - there's a lot of howling snobbery set against their stuff just
because it's relatively inexpensive. I think of this every time I'm playing to a packed
venue with a stack of Behringer kit and smile quietly... Based on my experience I'd
certainly check them out for any other speaker needs I had.
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Mike Sullivan
Joined: 31/12/07
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Loc: Ashland, KY, USA
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Re: Cheap powered monitors (US)
[Re: Zaxx]
#983216 - 20/04/12 02:26 AM
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That's how I feel. I use Berry processing (comp, eq) and it works great. And from what I
heard the F1320D's are a great set of cheap monitors. The 3-band EQ on the front itself
can also ailor the sound to the individual artist's needs. May just get some black tape
and cover the logo and surprise people if I like them.
-------------------- Ice Cold Entertainment DJ/Live Sound Services Ashland, KY, USA
Coming Soon: Presonus 32.4.2AI, QSC KW153/KW181 FOH, EV ELX Foldback
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Henry Mark1
Joined: 05/03/12
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Loc: USA
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Re: Cheap powered monitors (US)
[Re: Mike Sullivan]
#985901 - 05/05/12 11:38 AM
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Thanks for this very usful information sharing.
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RancorBeast
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Re: Cheap powered monitors (US)
[Re: Mike Sullivan]
#985916 - 05/05/12 01:00 PM
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My old singer recently sold me his Behringer powered mixer [PMP 1680]. I am really
surprised by the lack of power and generally bad sonics. I'm not a gear snob in the
least, I had a Peavey powered mixer rated at 300W which was much more powerful and
pleasant sounding and a Yamaha which was both much more powerful and sounded about 10
times better, I bought both of them used.
My advice as a Behringer owner
would be to try it out in whatever live situation you plan to use it in before committing
the money. The PMP1680 claims 1600W but doesn't appear to be able to come close to 400W
in actual output. My situation is just guitar amp, bass amp, drum kit and we don't play
loud and this thing struggles with 2 vocal mics [both SM58s].
I realize that
you are talking about monitors, but the power issue is what I'm addressing.
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tacitus
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Re: Cheap powered monitors (US)
[Re: Mike Sullivan]
#985919 - 05/05/12 02:45 PM
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Yeah, I'm no gear snob (oh, alright then, just a bit of one) but I've had various
Behringer bits over the years and for me I've done much better with things like DIs and
low-level signal stuff than with anything that has a power amp in it. The Behringer bass
amp I had some years ago was, literally, explosive!
But it's fair enough to say
that if you're happy with it, go for it. Expect the worst then you'll only be pleasantly
surprised. The band I play in at the moment has mainly Behringer amplification and I can
assure you it doesn't stop the punters dancing.
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Bossman
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Re: Cheap powered monitors (US)
[Re: tacitus]
#985925 - 05/05/12 03:54 PM
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Quote tacitus:
Yeah, I'm no gear
snob
well, I am a gear
snob.. because I've had the pleasure to use equipment of a much higher standard.
I have used plenty of b'ger kit over the years, so I know how it performs.. and
you can get usable results with it. The general problems are reliability and build
quality, lack of headroom/power. and generally they don't sound nice (to me)... but if its
all you can afford, then its better than nothing.
btw, I speak as a live
sound engineer, not a musician.
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tacitus:
The band I play in at the moment has mainly Behringer
amplification and I can assure you it doesn't stop the punters dancing.
true... (not including snobby sound
engineers and musicians) no one cares what equipment is being used, as long as the tune is
good
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Mike Sullivan
Joined: 31/12/07
Posts: 262
Loc: Ashland, KY, USA
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Re: Cheap powered monitors (US)
[Re: Mike Sullivan]
#985982 - 06/05/12 03:44 AM
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Well, I have a steady gig going, plus a possible second job (so I'll be rolling in about
$800/week), so I'm looking at financing options to get a set of the ELX112P's instead. A
bit overkill for bar gigs and small festivals, but once I purchase a second set of the
15/18 combo, plus another set of 18's for large dances to stick under that, I think it
would fit in very nicely. I'm looking at all possible financing options, including
talking to my bank as far as what they can do to help me, since I could afford to do a
long-term pay. (Yes, I know starting in the red is a bad idea, but there has been several
instances where I could do large scale events, but I struggle with finding enough gear)
-------------------- Ice Cold Entertainment DJ/Live Sound Services Ashland, KY, USA
Coming Soon: Presonus 32.4.2AI, QSC KW153/KW181 FOH, EV ELX Foldback
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Bossman
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Re: Cheap powered monitors (US)
[Re: Mike Sullivan]
#985995 - 06/05/12 09:41 AM
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personally, instead of getting yourself into debt, I would hire the equipment you need for
larger gigs. until you can afford to buy it. getting yourself into debt is a
bad start
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Mike Sullivan
Joined: 31/12/07
Posts: 262
Loc: Ashland, KY, USA
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Re: Cheap powered monitors (US)
[Re: Bossman]
#986205 - 07/05/12 10:11 PM
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Quote Bossman:
personally,
instead of getting yourself into debt, I would hire the equipment you need for larger
gigs. until you can afford to buy it.
getting yourself into debt is a bad start
Yeah, the problem is, where
I live noone rents. There's one company, but they're mainly regional, and they don't have
the stuff I need.
I've actually scrapped the Berry monitors, and just decided
to go ahead and get more of the EV's. I've had some interest in renting out pairs for
acoustic gigs and such. Plus, I can use them for wide area distribution (there's alot of
festivals in the area, schools and such, so it would definitely help with coverage for
those).
-------------------- Ice Cold Entertainment DJ/Live Sound Services Ashland, KY, USA
Coming Soon: Presonus 32.4.2AI, QSC KW153/KW181 FOH, EV ELX Foldback
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