Hi guys,

I've recently changed my gear which has resulted in a change in sound. I went from Epi Les paul, Marshall amps and a variety of different all in one fx boards to Fender strat, Vox AD50VT (modelling amp...I know....!) and I'm taking great pleasure in building up a collection of effects pedals. I have the basics- OD, compressor, wah, boost, reverb and delay.

The most useful in my band at the moment is my delay which is a Boss DD-6 and I just love the warp function. If anyone is unsure of the warp function, when you hold the pedal down it raises the level and feedback levels to create a nice swelling cloud of echoic bliss.
The problem I have with it is that you can hear the repeats whic is fine sometimes but sometimes I just want the swell with no repeats.

Is there a reverb pedal out there that has the same function?

I'm not talking volume swell either, I'm after a pedal where I can set a fairly big reverb and use the pedal to let it ascend into infinity!

I did the obvious and checked out the boss RV-5 but it's not what I'm after. although it does sound nice in modulation mode.

I'm really stuck here as to me, reverb has always been that knob on the amp that you twist to suit and leave in that position. Now I'm realising the potential of reverb and I'm hooked!

If not a pedal that does what I want, is there a work around? maybe a pedal that allows an expression pedal?

Thanks in advance guys!

C

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also, I'm not afraid of getting my hands dirty and doing a few mods if needed....

Just had another thought... the main issue is that when the pedal is in warp mode, there is no tap tempo so it easily (always) goes out of time and sound awful. Iss there a way to adapt the pedal to allow tap tempo whilst in warp mode?

I've been to Denmark street,london and asked every shop..... "i've no idea" is the general answer!

C

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Electroharmonix Holy Grail?

Or their 'Cathedral' reverb?

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Can you post a clip of the kind of sound you are looking for?

It might make it easier to make suggestions. I am not really sure what you are after exactly, it sounds interesting but may not be (easily) possible with pedals in a live situation.

Not a pedal, but I remember the Alesis Midiverb II had a couple of patches that might suit you. They were in the reverb bank and called "Bloom" I think. Two presets. Quite an eerie sound, a sort of reverb with an infinite length. Might suit what you need, you can pick these units up quite cheaply on ebay.

A quick search found this http://www.midisolutions.com/prodped.htm
It may be able to control a reverb unit equipped with midi.

Thanks for the replies!

the electro harmonix cathedral pedal was close to what I was thinking of and indeed I may make it my next purchase but it's not quite what I was after.

It seems that I'm struggling to explain what I'm after....
Here's a demo of the DD6... Skip to 2.47 for a very conservative demo of the warp function. the demo uses it in a "musical" way, I want to use it in an "atmospheric" way. I know this probably doesn't make sense still!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xvqKQofEGw

This guy desn't make the function sound good but maybe gives an idea of wha I want. Skip to 11.58
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKDpII1Q_Ss&feature=related

Now take away the delay/ repetition from thos demos and replace it with pure reverb then that's what I want.

I can get the massive sound I want from most reverb pedals but it's either on or off. I want to be able to control how massive it gets and when it's getting to big, back of the pedal a bit and tame it and apply more when needed.

I've had a little bit of success with an old zoom G2.1u multi piece of sh*t i have. I assigned the pedal to 'reverb' and set all of the reverb parameters to max. When in toe up position, it's a completely dry sound, when toe forward, all parameters are maxed. this is what I'm after but the reverbs in the multi fx aren't big enough and they sound like crap....

I hope this makes some sense to somebody!

Thanks again for your help guys, I know You probably think I'm crazy (all the shop assistants I've seen have looked at me in that way!)

Maybe I'll write to boss?

Peace
C

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Have a look at the TIP 3rd hand pedal. This connected to the decay time knob on your reverb pedal of choice might give you what you're looking for......

Dan

splitter - volume pedal - reverb - mixer - amp

or

diy fx loop with feedback - jack socket for expression pedal input to feedback level pot.

think dub delay, return to sender.

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splitter - volume pedal - reverb - mixer - amp

or

diy fx loop with feedback - jack socket for expression pedal input to feedback level pot.

think dub delay, return to sender.

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Like the man says you are feeding the echo back in to the echo unit. You can do this on a mixing desk, if you have the echo return going to its own channel and the input on say aux one you can turn aux one up a tad on the echo return channel. If you EQ the return channel then each subsequent repeating echo will be more toppy or dull.

There are several ways to do it with pedals but I would be going for expression pedal to get a good level according to what you are playing.

The Roland SPace Echo might do what you want on its own...

Check about a minute in to this demo

Personally, if I was going to do this with guitar I would be experimenting with separate pedals....

How about a http://www.ehx.com/products/freeze with a volume pedal after it?

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You could simply use a long delay time with no repeats, ala David Gilmour Live when he plays "Shine On" unaccompanied.

That will fade out over time, which I presume is what you want?

Hardest part would be to get the swell, without killing your sound whilst you fade in. For the above suggestion, David Gilmour splits his sound into two, and the swell/hold feeds a seperate amp. Do you have another amp to use, or maybe a PA channel?

A volume pedal and cheap reverb/delay pedal shouldn't break the bank, or try your Zoom with delay, no repeats and the time maxed then fade with the vol pedal as you have with reverb.

Other than that... Digitech Expression Factory I think does something similar, like the old XP Space Factory.

Hewesy

eventide space pedal with and expression pedal might do what you want...

http://www.eventide.com/AudioDivision/Products/StompBoxes/Eventide_Space.a spx

Don't own one but i think you can assign the expression pedal to any knob (or multiple knobs?) so that it would work like holding the dd6 pedal down...

Hope that helps

hi guys, thanks again for the replies! I've kind of found a work around here... i'm incorporating the zoom with the reverb effect assigned to the pedal and running that into the DD6. having the big reverb on the zoom seems to dull the repeats but it's still a pain when I want to resume normal play as I have to release the DD6 and quickly pull back the pedal on the zoom. It's ok though and you guys have given me some ideas to try!
It has to be said that the roland space echo looks ver, very interesting so I am going to check it out. I also like the ehx freeze- think it could help with what I want and open up a few more doors for my sound!

Thanks again guys.

I'm now persuing other effect sounds so I'm going to declare this thread closed!

Peace x

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