Ross@mix-xchange
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#980641 - 06/04/12 03:00 PM
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I've had an idea to create a forum for producers, recording artists and engineers to
network and hopefully collaborate and share skills. Also has general studio and business
chat, but the mission of the forum is to get people sharing stems and taking their music
to the next level, both in musical and engineering terms. I think one thing barrier to
budding mix engineers is the lack of music to work and hone their skills on, and this may
give both them and the musicians a chance to improve and grow. I've included a showcase
section where people can hear before and after mixes. It was a spur of the
moment idea, but it's intentions are purely to help and be of service. Would appreciate
any feedback both positive and negative which will help me improve and develop it, so it's
what members want. Please don't let it's infancy put you off, from small
acorns remember! mix-xchange forumadmin@mix-xchange.com
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JPHogg
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I think the idea of producers, engineers etc sharing all their best kept secrets on an
internet forum might be a good one, but in practice I'm not sure it would really work.
Most producers and engineers are working with other people's music so won't have
the permission to make stems available to other people (They're are various places to
download raw multitracks to practice on, including a very useful link on the SOS forum)
Alot of engineers and producers won't be open to the idea of letting everyone know
how they work, what techniques etc they use for other people to just copy them - it is
this knowledge and experience that gets them ongoing work.
There is always SOS
and GS where people can do exactly what your suggesting, so I feel that there is no
problem to be solved.
Sorry to be entirely negative about your idea but I just
don't see a gap that needs to be filled. If you could expand on the idea and come up with
something unique and genuinely useful then it has, in my humble opinion, a better chance
of getting of the ground and becoming a forum people will use.
HTH
JPHogg
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Ross@mix-xchange
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Thanks you very much for the valuable feedback JP, and your response is anything but
negative.
In terms of the sharing, I want it to be more towards a musician or
recording artist gaining from a mix engineers ear, and for engineers having some
interesting music to work with. While sharing individual techniques and settings would be
interesting, it is very subjective as we all know depending on the music. So not really
aiming at people revealing their secrets, more collaborating with other people who have a
different expertise and/or equipment and monitoring facilities.
Maybe it is a
wild idea, but my 'vision' would be for a place where an engineer could visit, and find a
producer outside of their usual realm that they can offer to collaborate with. Also for a
musician to visit with something they feel could be better, and get the expertise of an
engineer who's willing to donate their time. All this will hopefully result in some tunes
reaching a higher potential; letting producers concentrate on creativity, and engineers
focussing that feeling into something more balanced and appealing.
Truth is I
could be going down a dead end, but it would be great if even just a handful of people
could get something useful out of it.
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atechnogirl
Joined: 09/03/12
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I wonder if you might be an ex student trying to promote your skill. I think your idea is
commendable. However, as the previous poster said, nobody wants to upload their skills to
the net if they already have work.
So much is down to luck and connections.
For instance if you search carefully you will find someone who needs a masterer (and there
are many musicians who need a polish) so offer your services and get to know them.
Meanwhile you stock shelves all day...and then someone else who heard your mastering gets
in touch and the day job gets in the way. I guarantee you will get work because I know of
someone who did just that.
It is a slow game, but better get to know the
producers who need a hand than advertise yourself on the net.
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JPHogg
Joined: 05/07/11
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The networking side might be quite useful, especially if there's a facility to upload
examples of work. I would probably sign up and put a few tracks up in the hope of
attracting more clients.
You've got nothing to lose by giving it a go and if
you attract people with the same idea and have a fairly decent traffic count you could
maybe add a subscription charge.
Good luck!
JPHogg
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OneWorld
Joined: 07/04/09
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Quote Ross@mix-xchange: /> I've had
an idea to create a forum for producers, recording artists and engineers to network and
hopefully collaborate and share skills. Also has general studio and business chat, but the
mission of the forum is to get people sharing stems and taking their music to the next
level, both in musical and engineering terms. I think one thing barrier to budding mix
engineers is the lack of music to work and hone their skills on, and this may give both
them and the musicians a chance to improve and grow. I've included a showcase section
where people can hear before and after mixes.
It was a spur of the moment
idea, but it's intentions are purely to help and be of service. Would appreciate any
feedback both positive and negative which will help me improve and develop it, so it's
what members want.
Please don't let it's infancy put you off, from small
acorns remember!
mix-xchange forum admin@mix-xchange.com
Could this be extended to include a
freelance arranger/mixer/producers site where someone could upload their music and let
someone have a pop at arranging/mixing/producing and if the results were satisfactory then
a full jobby would be done for money?
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Ross@mix-xchange
Joined: 06/04/12
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That's a great perspective atechnogirl, and although I did graduate with an Electronic
Music degree a good few years back, I perhaps am looking at it from bias engineering
perspective. That said, I would class myself as a producer way before an engineer. I for
one do struggle sometimes and am never really happy with my mix, and would really
appreciate a place where I can go, listen to some engineers skills and perhaps approach
them about doing a mixdown on something I'm happy with musically but can't quite get the
mix right. Of course I'd have to hope they were into the music too. I am full time
employed and so this would also be another place I could connect with people, but
specifically for what I said above.
JP again thanks for your invaluable
feedback, and I'm hoping that you get something from the site. I do need to market more
though, especially to the musicians/bands etc.
OneWorld, I'd be more than happy
to add that facility if what is there doesn't already cover it. You could post in the
relevant genre forum with an example of what you want somebody to have a go at and a
description of what you are looking for . I'm sure somebody would have a go but you would
also need to be happy with what they have to offer you. The payment/contract stuff would
be done outside the realms of the forum – it's just there to facilitate.
Great feedback from all, I owe you big.
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ossuss
Joined: 06/12/09
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thought I'd put this one back up
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