those are other than the orchestra versions

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Any particular reason they have to be 24-bit?

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+1

And to put it in context, when I saw the title of this thread on the SOS home page as a recent forum post I said to myself 'I bet that's a new thread from Parco'. And I was right.

Andy

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The glass marimba from 8dio is pretty awesome, really playable but I'm afraid its only 16-bit so naturally its a complete no go.

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again, because double dithering in 16bit again sounds horribly noisy as some guys here had ever said before (I've forgotten who said in sos)


and most of my sampling libraries using are 24bit, so I don't want any exceptions inside the 24bit mixing.

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it's how you play them Parco

I think you're making too much of the 24-bit thing. All you're doing is limiting your choices.

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again, because double dithering in 16bit again sounds horribly noisy as some guys here had ever said before (I've forgotten who said in sos)

and most of my sampling libraries using are 24bit, so I don't want any exceptions inside the 24bit mixing.

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It's only marketing numbers. If you have a decent modern DAW you'll be mixing in a 32-bit environment anyway, whatever your mix of sources. I'm not sure what you mean by "double dithering", but if it adds perceptible noise, don't do it!

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again, because double dithering in 16bit again sounds horribly noisy as some guys here had ever said before (I've forgotten who said in sos)

and most of my sampling libraries using are 24bit, so I don't want any exceptions inside the 24bit mixing.

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It's only marketing numbers. If you have a decent modern DAW you'll be mixing in a 32-bit environment anyway, whatever your mix of sources. I'm not sure what you mean by "double dithering", but if it adds perceptible noise, don't do it!

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double dithering:
1. the sameples recorded by factories and down sampled into 16bit library, this is the first dithering

2. after I've mixed all tracks, with the 16bit inside a 24bit project, and down sampled into 16bit output and dither again, this is the second ditherings of the 16bit library.

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You will not hear the difference. Moreover these are only instrument emulations, so nothing perfect anyway! And far from it actually, as even the most expensive ones do not have enough velocity layers or playing modes for faking the actual instruments.

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double dithering:
1. the sameples recorded by factories and down sampled into 16bit library, this is the first dithering

2. after I've mixed all tracks, with the 16bit inside a 24bit project, and down sampled into 16bit output and dither again, this is the second ditherings of the 16bit library.

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You don't want to believe this, but it really doesn't matter! Worry about the music.

The raw samples should be optimised in level before dithering to 16 bits so the noise will be around 93dB below the level of the sample. When you use them in a mix, the samples will be reduced in level so the noise due to the initial dither will be reduced in level - typically by 20dB or more. So the original dither will make little contribution to the noise level of the mix. If you have any acoustic instruments you will probably find that the natural background noise on these instrument tracks is far higher than the noise due to dither.

James.

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