Jeraldo
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Volume Controls on Mbooks and iMacs
#986438 - 08/05/12 10:56 PM
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How do the volume controls work on iM and MB as controlled by the keyboard keys marked
with the speaker icon?
Is this some sort of digitally controlled amplifier,
or is there bit reduction going on?
Thanks
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chris...
active member
Joined: 12/03/03
Posts: 4152
Loc: Glasgow
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Re: Volume Controls on Mbooks and iMacs
[Re: Jeraldo]
#986445 - 08/05/12 11:40 PM
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Hi,
That volume control is implemented by maths inside the OS, which
internally performs calculations with bit-depth sufficient such that turning the volume
down shoudn't throw away detail.
That said, if you're using a proper audio
interface, you'll normally find this volume control is disabled. If you're using the
built-in analog output, you'll find it's more than sufficiently crap such that you don't
need to worry about such subtleties.
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Jeraldo
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Re: Volume Controls on Mbooks and iMacs
[Re: chris...]
#986454 - 09/05/12 01:17 AM
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Thanks again, Chris. Yes, with an interface is irrelevant. But I did want to
know what's happening. BTW, this stuff really should be known, but I've not seen it
anywhere. Can I ask where you find this stuff-or perhaps your work brings you contact with
such information?
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Tartaruga
Joined: 04/09/10
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Re: Volume Controls on Mbooks and iMacs
[Re: Jeraldo]
#986496 - 09/05/12 09:44 AM
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Hi I would tend to agree with Korff… Of course it’s harder to play an
acoustic guitar(we’ve been there…),but once you can play it,it’s easier to play
‘any’ guitar,with a 'little adaptation’… Also,it compensates in the practice
way,because you can play it everywhere(yes,even around that camping fire…) We
guitarists know that ‘electric’ and ‘acoustic’ are different
planets(yet,complementary),but if you learn how to play an acoustic,it will be much easier
to go from there to anything else 'string related’(I’ll pass here about the
‘dynamics’ involved in playing acoustic guitar…)… ANW,hope he’s motivated
enough,guitar is great but can be a very 'un-grateful' instrument,and yes,at the
begging,it will hurt,no matter what he chooses…But that’s just IMO.
ps:I
see guitar as a rowing boat,going against the current(?),if you stop practising,you go
‘backwards’,to the place where you came from in the first place…Still rowing...
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Tartaruga
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Re: Volume Controls on Mbooks and iMacs
[Re: Jeraldo]
#986497 - 09/05/12 09:45 AM
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Sorry guys,wrong place...
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chris...
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Re: Volume Controls on Mbooks and iMacs
[Re: chris...]
#986506 - 09/05/12 10:35 AM
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You can gleam some info from the Coreaudio-api list. When you say 'digitally controlled
amplifier' I guess you mean digitally controlled analog amplifier, which AIUI is the sort
of thing you get in £1000 DA convertors. Whereas the built-in audio circuitry in most
Macs sounds so bad it probably cost less than £1. So you can be pretty confident the
volume control operates in the digital domain.
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Exalted Wombat
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Re: Volume Controls on Mbooks and iMacs
[Re: Jeraldo]
#986509 - 09/05/12 10:48 AM
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Quote Jeraldo:
How do the volume
controls work on iM and MB as controlled by the keyboard keys marked with the speaker
icon?
Is this some sort of digitally controlled amplifier, or is there bit
reduction going on?
Interesting to consider whether it would make any difference. How many bits does it
take to fill a given dynamic range?
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chris...
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Loc: Glasgow
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Re: Volume Controls on Mbooks and iMacs
[Re: Exalted Wombat]
#986511 - 09/05/12 11:06 AM
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About 8 bits, considering the quality of most Macs' built-in audio...
However,
the makers of high-end DACs do see fit to use such circuitry.
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