markjosefmusic
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Transposing Key / Pitch
#986616 - 09/05/12 09:51 PM
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Hi all,
Sorry if this is in the wrong section but a bit new on this subject matter. I
currently have all my backing tracks as WAV files and have been using Audacity for basic
chopping and changing as I need. However the key change facility in Audacity is a wee bit
limited and greatly changes the dynamics of the sound at anything above 1 key up or down.
I then had a go with a friends system and he uses Magix Samplitude 11. This is a bit more
advanced than I actually need but the key change is obviously better than Audacity. I did
still find that dynamics were changed which I then tried to pull back with the mixer
function. So.... my question is, what is considered to be the best industry software with
regards to changing the key / pitch of songs? I appreciate that I will always have to pay
for more technology than I actually need. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers.......Mark
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RancorBeast
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Re: Transposing Key / Pitch
[Re: markjosefmusic]
#986624 - 09/05/12 11:21 PM
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I believe Melodyne DNA is the current industry leader in mono and polyphonic pitch change.
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markjosefmusic
Joined: 22/04/12
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Re: Transposing Key / Pitch
[Re: RancorBeast]
#986646 - 10/05/12 07:57 AM
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Hi,
Thanks for the quick reply. Melodyne had actually come up in a conversation I had
a while ago with a guy in my local music shop. I'll have a search around to see what info
I can dig up on it.
Best regards..........Mark
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Scramble
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Re: Transposing Key / Pitch
[Re: markjosefmusic]
#986686 - 10/05/12 10:16 AM
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>greatly changes the dynamics of the sound at anything above 1 key up or down
Do you mean it changes the tone? (Assume by 'key' you mean 'semitone'.)
Melodyne is an industry leader, but even Melodyne starts to sound crap when you
use it to raise the pitch more than a tone and a half. Backing vocals will allow you to
get away with it more than lead vocals, at least.
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Exalted Wombat
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Re: Transposing Key / Pitch
[Re: RancorBeast]
#986696 - 10/05/12 10:54 AM
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Quote RancorBeast:
I believe
Melodyne DNA is the current industry leader in mono and polyphonic pitch change.
Melodyne is great for doing the
AutoTune sort of stuff on individual tracks in a recording. I think you're talking about
pitch-shifting whole sections of a complete backing track though?
The Waves
plugin is good, but expensive. Most wav editors and DAWs come with their own version.
Depending on source, a couple of semitones shift may sound horrible or going as far as a
4th may be acceptable. It helps if the original isn't drenched in reverb, and if it's a
wav not a compressed MP3 (and never HAS been a MP3 - the quality can't be put back by
simply converting to wav - which counts out most downloaded tracks I'm afraid).
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alexis
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Loc: San Antonio, TX USA
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Re: Transposing Key / Pitch
[Re: markjosefmusic]
#986749 - 10/05/12 03:23 PM
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http://www.tc-helicon.com/products/voicelive-play/Seems
like from their youtube vids, it can very nicely do pitch shifts up to an octave that
sound good enough for backing tracks. Plus you have a hardware unit you can use
live! At least that's what the youtubes say ...
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markjosefmusic
Joined: 22/04/12
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Re: Transposing Key / Pitch
[Re: alexis]
#986840 - 11/05/12 08:23 AM
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Hi all,
Many thanks for the responses. All of my 750 backing tracks (about 26gb), are
recorded as WAV from CD quality. The audio Info tag on every track states it is 44.1 Khz
Sample Rate, with a 1,411 kbps Bit rate and 0% compression. The only additional work I
have done with them is perhaps normalise via Audacity or chenge the key a little as is
required. I'm not the type of guy that will screw the key through the floor just to sing a
popular song... It's either near my natural range or I simply don't bother with it. I have
looked at Melodyne DNA and may well have a chat with a few of my singer friends on the
circuit and see if they want to club together and buy it. I'll let you all know what the
feedback is once we try it out.
Thanks guys.......Mark
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Scramble
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Re: Transposing Key / Pitch
[Re: markjosefmusic]
#986848 - 11/05/12 09:20 AM
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You can't use Melodyne for pitch-shifting a whole track (by which I mean a recording of
more than one voice/instrument all playing different notes). You could buy a program that
has a good pitch-shifter, like Wavelab, but that's an expensive way of doing it if we're
only talking about a few tracks. Best idea might be to ask someone here who has such tools
if they can do it for a small fee.
Edited by Scramble (11/05/12 09:36 AM)
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