ZeuZ
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Physical modelling synthesis + Granular synthesis
#987064 - 12/05/12 05:32 PM
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I've been given a project that needs to include an example of physical modelling synthesis
and granular synthesis. I'm even a bit confused about what the terms means as the moment,
let alone which synths I have at my disposal that would use it. I have NI Komplete 5 so
quite a selection from that, and also every synth that comes bundled with Logic Pro.
Where should I start? and with which synths can do these types of synthesis?
Many thanks,
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N WILLIAMS
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Re: Physical modelling synthesis + Granular synthesis
[Re: ZeuZ]
#987065 - 12/05/12 05:42 PM
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Have a look at the following for Granular Synthesis: http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/dec05/articles/granularworkshop.htm... and have a look at the reviews on this website for the Korg Prophecy and Korg
Z1 for Physical Modelling Synthesis. There is also plenty of in depth info if
you use google.
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ZeuZ
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Re: Physical modelling synthesis + Granular synthesis
[Re: N WILLIAMS]
#987066 - 12/05/12 05:50 PM
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Thanks that helps a lot, looks like ive got a few granular synthesis synths. Will probably
use Kontakt. In terms of physical modelling I'm going to find this difficult I think with
my software, will Reaktor be able to do this for me?
Edited by ZeuZ (12/05/12 05:53 PM)
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Chevytraveller
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Re: Physical modelling synthesis + Granular synthesis
[Re: ZeuZ]
#987068 - 12/05/12 06:00 PM
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Quote ZeuZ:
Thanks that helps a
lot, looks like ive got a few granular synthesis synths. Will probably use Kontakt. In
terms of physical modelling I'm going to find this difficult I think with my software,
will Reaktor be able to do this for me?
You should already have a physical modelling synth bundled
with Logic Pro..
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ZeuZ
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Re: Physical modelling synthesis + Granular synthesis
[Re: Chevytraveller]
#987073 - 12/05/12 07:02 PM
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Quote Chevytraveller:
Quote ZeuZ:
Thanks that helps a
lot, looks like ive got a few granular synthesis synths. Will probably use Kontakt. In
terms of physical modelling I'm going to find this difficult I think with my software,
will Reaktor be able to do this for me?
You should already have a physical modelling synth
bundled with Logic Pro..
Which one would you recommend
would be best (easiest) to use for a relative Logic noob? I've not learnt a lot of the
logic synths very well yet, so would need an easy and not too technically difficult synth
to quickly learn.
Edited by ZeuZ (12/05/12 07:02 PM)
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desmond
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Re: Physical modelling synthesis + Granular synthesis
[Re: ZeuZ]
#987089 - 12/05/12 08:07 PM
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Physical Modelling is often a "difficult" type of synthesis to get to grips with.
Sculpture is Logic's PM synth, and it's pretty intimidating for new users - however, it
has good tutorials in the manuals so if you work through those you'll get enough of an
idea to work with it.
Also, the EVD6 clarinet is also a modelled instrument
based on similar principles, although this one is targeted at emulating a particular type
of string models - however, it might also be one to play with.
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Dave B
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Re: Physical modelling synthesis + Granular synthesis
[Re: ZeuZ]
#987151 - 13/05/12 12:41 PM
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How strange! Someone who seems to have internet access that does not include Google????
 Seriously, we can help if you need specific technical pointers, but asking for an
example of physical modelling and granular synths on a forum is just damned lazy, and will
not ultimately help you in any way shape or form if you can't be bothered to look for
yourself. Feel free to ask more questions like this if you like ... but
traditionally, people doing so get roasted... 
-------------------- Veni, Vidi, Aesculi
(I came, I saw, I conkered)
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SecretSam
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Re: Physical modelling synthesis + Granular synthesis
[Re: ZeuZ]
#987288 - 14/05/12 09:41 AM
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Applied Acoustics Tassman is an interesting modular physical modelling synth.
How the phuq it works is still beyond me, but the presets sound great ;-)
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Richie Royale
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Re: Physical modelling synthesis + Granular synthesis
[Re: SecretSam]
#987324 - 14/05/12 11:29 AM
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Quote SecretSam:
Applied
Acoustics Tassman is an interesting modular physical modelling synth.
How the
phuq it works is still beyond me, but the presets sound great ;-)
I got a filthy bassline out of that
recently. I do think it is a bit of a head scratcher to get started from nothing, but
calling up some preset builds and then tweaking as you would on any synth can get you some
great results.
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basilfawlty
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Re: Physical modelling synthesis + Granular synthesis
[Re: ZeuZ]
#987353 - 14/05/12 03:05 PM
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Check out Max/MSP. There's a great build of a granular synth in there which, if you get
behind the scenes and follow the programming through, really teaches you a lot about
granulation and its use in synthesis. You can get a 30 day demo for Max for free, or if
you are a student you can 'lease' it for 9 months quite cheap. If you're serious about
programming and sound design you'll do a lot worse than getting to grips with Max/MSP.
One question, you say you've been 'given a project', hence my assumption that you
may be a student. Are you supposed to find out for yourself about granular and modelling
synthesis, or have you been taught any of it? Just curious...
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desmond
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Re: Physical modelling synthesis + Granular synthesis
[Re: basilfawlty]
#987357 - 14/05/12 03:36 PM
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Hmm - I wouldn't say to someone new to synthesis that they should *start* with Max/MSP...
that's a bit hardcore... ( ! )
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basilfawlty
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Re: Physical modelling synthesis + Granular synthesis
[Re: desmond]
#987388 - 14/05/12 06:31 PM
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Quote desmond:
Hmm - I wouldn't
say to someone new to synthesis that they should *start* with Max/MSP... that's a bit
hardcore... ( ! )
True, but
perhaps not as hard core as a course specifying that someone obviously new to synthesis
should start by teaching themselves about physical modelling and granulation... unless its
a hard-core course, in which case I stand by my recommendation...
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Martin Walker
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Re: Physical modelling synthesis + Granular synthesis
[Re: ZeuZ]
#987462 - 15/05/12 01:24 AM
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