JM-1
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On a Pedal Board - short patch cables vs adapters
#987031 - 12/05/12 01:12 PM
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Intuitively I would think that since we step on effects pedals the slight flexibility
offered by a short patch cable would make adjoining pedals more stable and safer, rather
than this kind of adapter: http://www.thomann.de/gb/thomann_adapter_bodeneffekte_gerade.htmhttp://www.thomann.de/gb/thomann_adapter_bodeneffekte_versetzt.htmwhich I would think would make adjacent pedals move about too... What
do you think? JM
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tobiaudio
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Re: On a Pedal Board - short patch cables vs adapters
[Re: JM-1]
#987032 - 12/05/12 01:22 PM
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You are right, the flexibility of a cable is better for the pedal's jacks. And I
made tests comparing high end cables (Tonehunter Gold patch cables) with those thomann
adapters. The patch cables sound for more transparent and neutral. The adapters made the
signal a bit dull.
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ef37a
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Re: On a Pedal Board - short patch cables vs adapters
[Re: JM-1]
#987106 - 13/05/12 07:37 AM
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Most jacks are PCB mounted and in some equipment and some pedals as well I would guess, do
not also bolt the jack to the case. Thus any stress on the socket gets transmitted to the
PCB joints and they fail (I had a similar problem with a MIDI DIN on a keyboard only a
month or so ago)so no, I would not use those solid adaptors. In fact I can see no valid
use for them at all! I suppose you could use them to tie two inline sockets together but
they themselves are THE most unreliable of adaptors excepting the Neutrik metal locking
job.
So go for any decent quality shielded cable, at these lengths it will make
absolutely no audible difference even if you have those daft "true" bypass pedals! A good
choice of cable would be foil shielded since that gives you 100% RF proofing and it is
more than flexible enough for this usage and much easier to strip and fit than braid.
Dave.
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Exalted Wombat
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Re: On a Pedal Board - short patch cables vs adapters
[Re: tobiaudio]
#987110 - 13/05/12 09:09 AM
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Quote tobiaudio:
You are right,
the flexibility of a cable is better for the pedal's jacks. And I made tests
comparing high end cables (Tonehunter Gold patch cables) with those thomann adapters. The
patch cables sound for more transparent and neutral. The adapters made the signal a bit
dull.
If you REALLY believe
that, open up the pedals, get out your soldering iron and hard-wire the links. It won't
sound as good, because it won't have been so expensive. But give it a try, anyway :-)
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ef37a
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Re: On a Pedal Board - short patch cables vs adapters
[Re: Exalted Wombat]
#987113 - 13/05/12 09:15 AM
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Quote Exalted Wombat:
Quote tobiaudio:
You are right,
the flexibility of a cable is better for the pedal's jacks. And I made tests
comparing high end cables (Tonehunter Gold patch cables) with those thomann adapters. The
patch cables sound for more transparent and neutral. The adapters made the signal a bit
dull.
If you REALLY believe
that, open up the pedals, get out your soldering iron and hard-wire the links. It won't
sound as good, because it won't have been so expensive. But give it a try, anyway :-)
And don't forget the Gold
plated, Silicon-Iron "Flux Absorbers" that must sit on the power supply line lumps!
Dave.
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Exalted Wombat
Joined: 06/02/10
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Re: On a Pedal Board - short patch cables vs adapters
[Re: ef37a]
#987140 - 13/05/12 12:02 PM
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Quote ef37a:
Quote Exalted Wombat:
Quote tobiaudio:
You are right,
the flexibility of a cable is better for the pedal's jacks. And I made tests
comparing high end cables (Tonehunter Gold patch cables) with those thomann adapters. The
patch cables sound for more transparent and neutral. The adapters made the signal a bit
dull.
If you REALLY believe
that, open up the pedals, get out your soldering iron and hard-wire the links. It won't
sound as good, because it won't have been so expensive. But give it a try, anyway :-)
And don't forget the Gold
plated, Silicon-Iron "Flux Absorbers" that must sit on the power supply line lumps!
Wouldn't they interfere
with the Brilliant
Pebbles?
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ef37a
Joined: 29/05/06
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Loc: northampton uk
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Re: On a Pedal Board - short patch cables vs adapters
[Re: Exalted Wombat]
#987150 - 13/05/12 12:36 PM
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Quote Exalted Wombat:
Quote ef37a:
Quote Exalted Wombat:
Quote tobiaudio:
You are right,
the flexibility of a cable is better for the pedal's jacks. And I made tests
comparing high end cables (Tonehunter Gold patch cables) with those thomann adapters. The
patch cables sound for more transparent and neutral. The adapters made the signal a bit
dull.
If you REALLY believe
that, open up the pedals, get out your soldering iron and hard-wire the links. It won't
sound as good, because it won't have been so expensive. But give it a try, anyway :-)
And don't forget the Gold
plated, Silicon-Iron "Flux Absorbers" that must sit on the power supply line lumps!
Wouldn't they interfere
with the Brilliant
Pebbles?
Not if you coat them in
snake oil first. Dave.
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