slightly
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Bit of eq after compression or limiting
#988383 - 19/05/12 03:16 PM
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Whats standard to add some bass back in?
Last while just had compression followed by
limiter
And then, a touch of eq..
All I hear about is post compresser
eq
If you done compresser-eq and then limiter I'm
Thinking u'd end up lossing
the eq but again
But I haven't tried any of this enough..
What would be
ideal, for me bit of eq after
Compresser- limiter isn't bring back enough
Of
what I first started out with, with pre- dynamic
Eq??
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Hugh Robjohns
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Re: Bit of eq after compression or limiting
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#988388 - 19/05/12 03:49 PM
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Limiting should come last otherwise it is largely pointless.
Normally I would
eq after compression as the dynamics processing can affect the perceived tonality.
But in your case it sounds like the compression is damping your bass end too
much, which implies that the bass is very strong to start with and the compressor is
trying to restore a more normal spectral balance.
Try putting a high pass
filter in the compressor side chain to make it less sensitive to the low end.
Hugh
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slightly
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Re: Bit of eq after compression or limiting
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#988389 - 19/05/12 04:00 PM
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Thanks Hugh!
Didn't sound quite right after limiter alright..
Not a big
issue anyway just experimenting for now
Thanks
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smash4686
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Re: Bit of eq after compression or limiting
[Re: slightly]
#988434 - 19/05/12 10:17 PM
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Sometimes I get a great sound through the EQ, compress it then EQ it again if I have lost
any tones I like. Hell I've used 2 compressors on one channel before. If it works then do
it. Limiting however is definately at the end of the chain. Only thing after that is
dithering.
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vinyl_junkie
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Re: Bit of eq after compression or limiting
[Re: smash4686]
#988439 - 19/05/12 10:58 PM
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Quote smash4686:
Sometimes I get
a great sound through the EQ, compress it then EQ it again if I have lost any tones I
like. Hell I've used 2 compressors on one channel before. If it works then do it. Limiting
however is definately at the end of the chain. Only thing after that is dithering.
I have also seen George
Massenburg use an eq before compression and then another eq after the compressor on this
video as he demos the GML compressor http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QElxm41CS8I&feature=plcp
(Around the 6 minute mark)
Edited by vinyl_junkie (19/05/12 11:03 PM)
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slightly
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Re: Bit of eq after compression or limiting
[Re: slightly]
#988517 - 20/05/12 02:20 PM
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As I seem to be understanding it, perhaps
I'm misusing limiters by using um
On
individual tracks, like a bd track
.. Just seems more finished like that..
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narcoman
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Re: Bit of eq after compression or limiting
[Re: Hugh Robjohns]
#988520 - 20/05/12 02:53 PM
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Quote Hugh Robjohns:
hich implies
that the bass is very strong to start with and the compressor is trying to restore a more
normal spectral balance.
well that'd be a very nice compressor wouldn't it !! 
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Hugh Robjohns
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Re: Bit of eq after compression or limiting
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#988526 - 20/05/12 03:47 PM
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You can use limiters on source tracks to achieve control on transient-rich signals like
drums, and you can eq before compression to alter the way a compressor reacts to the input
signal. It all depends what you're trying to achieve.
In general, though, eq
after compression and limiting at the end of the chain to catch transients missed by the
compressor is the most common arrangement.
Hugh
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A. AuCr
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Re: Bit of eq after compression or limiting
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#988604 - 21/05/12 03:36 AM
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...and there's always door #3: Multiband compressors. Lets you do things like control
the bass without making the high end duck & pump every time the kick hits.
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slightly
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Re: Bit of eq after compression or limiting
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#989185 - 23/05/12 06:18 PM
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I'm a bit confudled trying to put adise to practice today and I know my ears should know
but theyre always playing tricks on me..
say so: I do a low cut on a BD at
around65hz, great- do the compresser
now I want to boost at 80hz
I'll add
now I'm using softtube trident: so..
in order to boost at 80hz-ish only and not bring
back up the 65 downwards freqs
should I be hitting in the 25+50hz "highpass"
again after comp. for the 80hz boost?
sounds wrong as if I'm killing more freq
after compresser but I would of thought 50 hz cut is 50 hz cut etc
but maybe
with the post comp. 80 hz boost this shelving affect without activating 25+50hz hipass
swicthes again,
I'm "undoing" the original freq cut
like I said I'm
confudled to the theory
please help
Ta!
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