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Bit of eq after compression or limiting new
      #988383 - 19/05/12 03:16 PM
Whats standard to add some bass back in?
Last while just had compression followed by limiter
And then, a touch of eq..

All I hear about is post compresser eq
If you done compresser-eq and then limiter I'm
Thinking u'd end up lossing the eq but again
But I haven't tried any of this enough..

What would be ideal, for me bit of eq after
Compresser- limiter isn't bring back enough
Of what I first started out with, with pre- dynamic
Eq??


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Re: Bit of eq after compression or limiting new [Re: slightly]
      #988388 - 19/05/12 03:49 PM
Limiting should come last otherwise it is largely pointless.

Normally I would eq after compression as the dynamics processing can affect the perceived tonality.

But in your case it sounds like the compression is damping your bass end too much, which implies that the bass is very strong to start with and the compressor is trying to restore a more normal spectral balance.

Try putting a high pass filter in the compressor side chain to make it less sensitive to the low end.

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Re: Bit of eq after compression or limiting new [Re: slightly]
      #988389 - 19/05/12 04:00 PM
Thanks Hugh!
Didn't sound quite right after limiter alright..

Not a big issue anyway just experimenting for now
Thanks


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Re: Bit of eq after compression or limiting new [Re: slightly]
      #988434 - 19/05/12 10:17 PM
Sometimes I get a great sound through the EQ, compress it then EQ it again if I have lost any tones I like. Hell I've used 2 compressors on one channel before. If it works then do it. Limiting however is definately at the end of the chain. Only thing after that is dithering.


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Re: Bit of eq after compression or limiting new [Re: smash4686]
      #988439 - 19/05/12 10:58 PM
Quote smash4686:

Sometimes I get a great sound through the EQ, compress it then EQ it again if I have lost any tones I like. Hell I've used 2 compressors on one channel before. If it works then do it. Limiting however is definately at the end of the chain. Only thing after that is dithering.




I have also seen George Massenburg use an eq before compression and then another eq after the compressor on this video as he demos the GML compressor http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QElxm41CS8I&feature=plcp
(Around the 6 minute mark)

Edited by vinyl_junkie (19/05/12 11:03 PM)


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Re: Bit of eq after compression or limiting new [Re: slightly]
      #988517 - 20/05/12 02:20 PM
As I seem to be understanding it, perhaps
I'm misusing limiters by using um
On individual tracks, like a bd track

.. Just seems more finished like that..


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Re: Bit of eq after compression or limiting new [Re: Hugh Robjohns]
      #988520 - 20/05/12 02:53 PM
Quote Hugh Robjohns:

hich implies that the bass is very strong to start with and the compressor is trying to restore a more normal spectral balance.





well that'd be a very nice compressor wouldn't it !!


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Re: Bit of eq after compression or limiting new [Re: slightly]
      #988526 - 20/05/12 03:47 PM
You can use limiters on source tracks to achieve control on transient-rich signals like drums, and you can eq before compression to alter the way a compressor reacts to the input signal. It all depends what you're trying to achieve.

In general, though, eq after compression and limiting at the end of the chain to catch transients missed by the compressor is the most common arrangement.

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Re: Bit of eq after compression or limiting [Re: slightly]
      #988604 - 21/05/12 03:36 AM
...and there's always door #3: Multiband compressors. Lets you do things like control the bass without making the high end duck & pump every time the kick hits.


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Re: Bit of eq after compression or limiting new [Re: slightly]
      #989185 - 23/05/12 06:18 PM
I'm a bit confudled trying to put adise to practice today and I know my ears should know but theyre always playing tricks on me..

say so: I do a low cut on a BD at around65hz, great- do the compresser
now I want to boost at 80hz

I'll add now I'm using softtube trident: so..
in order to boost at 80hz-ish only and not bring back up the 65 downwards freqs

should I be hitting in the 25+50hz "highpass" again after comp. for the 80hz boost?

sounds wrong as if I'm killing more freq after compresser but I would of thought 50 hz cut is 50 hz cut etc

but maybe with the post comp. 80 hz boost this shelving affect without activating 25+50hz hipass swicthes again,
I'm "undoing" the original freq cut

like I said I'm confudled to the theory

please help
Ta!


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