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Re: Is Prometheus going to be any good? new [Re: narcoman]
      #994032 - 21/06/12 11:38 PM
Fraid so -- I love it too. You know what's coming, but it's a roller coaster ride with some great action sequences, fab Sci-fi vehicles and planes, entertaining screenplay and dialogue, and a cute kiddie star. What's not to like?

The original Alien is special though, as a genre-defining movie that set a new standard in its day for creating dramatic tension and introducing new cinematography techniques. I remember the masterful marketing hype of the time too, where cinemas in the UK employed St John's ambulance staff to stand in the aisles ready to come to the assistance of distressed punters. No one had ever done that before, and if that didn't wind up the audience into nervous hysteria and expectation nothing would!

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Re: Is Prometheus going to be any good? new [Re: Neil C]
      #994053 - 22/06/12 01:25 AM
And in the first one they actually acted.

which is nice.


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Re: Is Prometheus going to be any good? new [Re: narcoman]
      #994066 - 22/06/12 05:56 AM
Ah, I love Bon Jovi too. It all makes sense to me now!

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Re: Is Prometheus going to be any good? new [Re: narcoman]
      #994080 - 22/06/12 07:54 AM
Quote narcoman:

Man, can't believe I'm seeing love for Aliens !!!




Let it go Narco. I'm with you, but there is no accounting for taste. It was on recently so I thought I would give it another go; I got to the bit where they find the little girl and then had to switch it off.

I find it mostly pretty bad, mostly.

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Re: Is Prometheus going to be any good? new [Re: Neil C]
      #994085 - 22/06/12 08:17 AM
There are slavering monster beasties, big explosions, and Sigourney Weaver with a flamethrower.

What more do you want?!

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Re: Is Prometheus going to be any good? new [Re: fletcher]
      #994094 - 22/06/12 08:57 AM
*Spoilers*

Quote fletcher:


I too felt the last bit of the film was off, also agree a few things don't quite tie together. On the whole though a good trip.





Quote adrian_k:


Hmmm.. I thought it was overblown and the plot was weak and muddled (like you it left me with more questions than answers),




Everything I read pre-release pointed at it having been written and developed as a two part story so whilst the pacing was annoying, I supposed they needed to do so to make sure everyone was on the same page going into the next... that said I do feel like I walked out of it asking exactly the same questions as when I entered.

I quite enjoyed all in all. The 3D was mostly subtle Scotts camera work and shot framing really made it work without it being too in your face with for no reason. Pacing I'd agree was a little off, but never seemed to drag.

(warning : cobbled together theory ahead)

One of the back story bits I'd read previously, pointed at the Aliens being genetically engineered weapons from a race that uses them to strip planets of indigenous life before the Engineers come in taking whats left resource wise.

My take on it is something along the lines of they found our planet covered in huge Dinosaurs the first time they came here and decided it wasn't safe to do carry out the resource stripping they needed to do. The human race is a genetic match for the Engineers so I suspect the story will had towards them engineering and releasing us (clones of them) all over the planet to spread out and populate it. After a number of years they come back with the Alien genetic tubes you saw all over the shop and start infecting the Human population until the is enough of these creatures running about to wipe out all indigenous life. Once that's achieved you flick a genetic kill switch in the aliens and they all drop dead leaving the planet free to be plundered.

Why go through all that effort? Would you seriously choose to transport a ship of live alien killers across the universe, when you can carry a tamer and far easier to control host creature that will spread like a virus upon it's arrival?

So yeah, I think the Engineers will end up having created both us and the aliens as symbiotic tools in planetary distruction so they can strip planets and fuel their expansion. We were never supposed to be here, but were supplanted here and forgotten about. Kind of ties in with the off the cuff comments made to David during the film whilst they are dicussing meeting makers and being disappointed when they find out their a mistake or simply inconsequential.

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Re: Is Prometheus going to be any good? new [Re: Richie Royale]
      #994099 - 22/06/12 09:11 AM
Quote Richie Royale:

Quote narcoman:

Man, can't believe I'm seeing love for Aliens !!!




Let it go Narco. I'm with you, but there is no accounting for taste. It was on recently so I thought I would give it another go; I got to the bit where they find the little girl and then had to switch it off.

I find it mostly pretty bad, mostly.




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Re: Is Prometheus going to be any good? new [Re: Pete Kaine]
      #994225 - 22/06/12 04:25 PM
Quote:

(warning : cobbled together theory ahead)



But I don't get why you would populate a planet with us then wipe us out - but to be fair that's the question the female scientist is off to investigate at the end of the film.

The other thing that bothered me was why, if we have an exact genetic match for these guys, we are not 10 feet tall and bald.

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Re: Is Prometheus going to be any good? new [Re: adrian_k]
      #994228 - 22/06/12 04:46 PM
Quote adrian_k:

The other thing that bothered me was why, if we have an exact genetic match for these guys, we are not 10 feet tall and bald.




I believe that's called artistic license.

Personally, I'm quite glad I'm only 5'5" with a full head of hair

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Re: Is Prometheus going to be any good? new [Re: Pete Kaine]
      #994247 - 22/06/12 05:40 PM
sorry Pete that would ruin it for me.

If you have that much control other bio-tech, dinosaurs would be an easy kill, you wouldn't need killer beasties and you wouldn't need to wait miilions of years for humans to evolve to carry the embryo beasties. There would be much easier ways to kill dinosaurs, drop a big rock on them from space for a start...Or surely a few killer viruses would be neater than unleashing a dangerous animal. No I think the Alien animal was an accident, a product of the bio-tech and the Humanoid DNA.

The other thing that makes me laugh is the idea that space going aliens would need to plunder our precious world, for what?
Colonise maybe, but there is nothing here that can't be got at much easier in space - except perhaps life itself. If however they wanted to harvest DNA, as it might be a rare thing in the cosmos and a useful thing to a race of genetic engineers, why would they want to wipe life out?

Oh by the way I have some more questions. There were a lot of the giant humanoid bodies with their chests burst open, where were the beasties that came out? Also if there are a lot of the spaceships on the planet why would they all have fallen prey to the accident that infected the one ship? Are we supposed to believe that the accident was planetwide and so synchronised that not one ship could launch before falling victim to it? That is why it had to be a cordinated attack, and that is more evidence for my theory of two factions of the Humanoids.

Either that or the studio didn't like the ending and made him tag a different one on.............


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Re: Is Prometheus going to be any good? new [Re: Jennifer Jones]
      #994288 - 22/06/12 10:50 PM
Quote Jennifer Jones:

Quote adrian_k:

The other thing that bothered me was why, if we have an exact genetic match for these guys, we are not 10 feet tall and bald.




I believe that's called artistic license.

Personally, I'm quite glad I'm only 5'5" with a full head of hair




OK well we never saw any mega-women in the film so maybe I shouldn't rush to conclusions - you could be a perfectly normal mega-woman. But us guys would definitely just be runts...

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