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Same low(freq. ) cuts twice? new
      #990260 - 29/05/12 05:24 PM
So asked a q. Last day received advise
Which meant I have being doing a lot
Of things backwards: eq & compression

Still finding it hard to get my head around
For some reason, right now trying to
Focus on basics-

I've cut 60 hz down on a really deep
Messy bassdrum..
I've applied compression then,
So now the deep bad Freqs have already been
Rolled off,

Now I feel compelled to do the exact same cuts
In order to smoothly boost just above

I state now I'm using softtube trident a range
If yeer familar, it makes(to me) no sense
To do the cuts again, only that I like this eq
And want to boost 80hz which with this
Eq is shelving, I'm experimenting
Around, guessing I shouldn't be doing
Same cuts, if already done but now bypassing
It still seems messy in the low freqs, even with
Original cuts applied, is this common enough
Practice-
Big cuts first and 're-cuts' again
Post comp?

Would there be theory my first highpass
Selection is being reboosted by the compresser

I know ears should know best, just that
Disorientated knowing all this new stuff/methods
Thks


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Re: Same low(freq. ) cuts twice? [Re: slightly]
      #990349 - 30/05/12 08:59 AM
its not being rebuilt - but a high pass filter isn't a perfect thing. It's merely a 6 or 12 etc dB per octave roll off. If you're rolling off at 60hz then you'll still have plenty of LF content.


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Re: Same low(freq. ) cuts twice? new [Re: slightly]
      #990422 - 30/05/12 01:40 PM
Well I think I've settled better now and
Just trusting my ears a bit..

But u'd think if 60/70hz has being cut
B4 compresser that even the merest cut
Then after compresser I. E
A 25 hz or50 hz cut would not be audible
At this stage, kinda strange

Slowing getting the swing again anyway


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Re: Same low(freq. ) cuts twice? new [Re: slightly]
      #990424 - 30/05/12 01:41 PM
Also I think I just got ur post better sec.
Read, think answers last post


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Re: Same low(freq. ) cuts twice? new [Re: narcoman]
      #990566 - 31/05/12 08:36 AM
Quote narcoman:

its not being rebuilt - but a high pass filter isn't a perfect thing. It's merely a 6 or 12 etc dB per octave roll off. If you're rolling off at 60hz then you'll still have plenty of LF content.




Probably worth re-iterating that a 60Hz filter will usually be 3dB down at 60Hz and only 15dB down at 30Hz. 30Hz will sound about a third as loud as it would if there were no filter. However, thanks to psychoacoustics, we often hear overtones of those frequencies as bass too so most musical bass lines won't seem very different.

James.

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Re: Same low(freq. ) cuts twice? new [Re: slightly]
      #990665 - 31/05/12 03:53 PM
I would say you could try to insert a simple low shelving eq. set to a very low freq., say 30 Hz, and start lowering it until you feel the low frequency is better balanced with the rest. Then, using another equaliser, you could try and put a High Pass Filter also down to a very low freq and start going up the range being careful not to make the bass drum weak.

Other think you could try is to find some mid-lo frequency that could also be messing with the bass drum and apply a cut with a peak filter.

You could also, before anything, try to use a gentle compressor making the attack a bit faster than usual for low freq instrument. That could help you to get rid of deep low freq. Again, start with the attack set to slow and then try to speed it up to taste.

I would try that.

Chico


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