slightly
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Same low(freq. ) cuts twice?
#990260 - 29/05/12 05:24 PM
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So asked a q. Last day received advise Which meant I have being doing a lot Of
things backwards: eq & compression
Still finding it hard to get my head
around For some reason, right now trying to Focus on basics-
I've cut
60 hz down on a really deep Messy bassdrum.. I've applied compression then, So now the deep bad Freqs have already been Rolled off,
Now I feel
compelled to do the exact same cuts In order to smoothly boost just above
I state now I'm using softtube trident a range If yeer familar, it makes(to me) no
sense To do the cuts again, only that I like this eq And want to boost 80hz
which with this Eq is shelving, I'm experimenting Around, guessing I shouldn't
be doing Same cuts, if already done but now bypassing It still seems messy in
the low freqs, even with Original cuts applied, is this common enough Practice- Big cuts first and 're-cuts' again Post comp?
Would there
be theory my first highpass Selection is being reboosted by the compresser
I know ears should know best, just that Disorientated knowing all this new
stuff/methods Thks
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narcoman
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Re: Same low(freq. ) cuts twice?
[Re: slightly]
#990349 - 30/05/12 08:59 AM
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its not being rebuilt - but a high pass filter isn't a perfect thing. It's merely a 6 or
12 etc dB per octave roll off. If you're rolling off at 60hz then you'll still have plenty
of LF content.
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slightly
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Re: Same low(freq. ) cuts twice?
[Re: slightly]
#990422 - 30/05/12 01:40 PM
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Well I think I've settled better now and Just trusting my ears a bit..
But
u'd think if 60/70hz has being cut B4 compresser that even the merest cut Then
after compresser I. E A 25 hz or50 hz cut would not be audible At this stage,
kinda strange
Slowing getting the swing again anyway
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slightly
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Re: Same low(freq. ) cuts twice?
[Re: slightly]
#990424 - 30/05/12 01:41 PM
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Also I think I just got ur post better sec. Read, think answers last post
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James Perrett
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Re: Same low(freq. ) cuts twice?
[Re: narcoman]
#990566 - 31/05/12 08:36 AM
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Quote narcoman:
its not being
rebuilt - but a high pass filter isn't a perfect thing. It's merely a 6 or 12 etc dB per
octave roll off. If you're rolling off at 60hz then you'll still have plenty of LF
content.
Probably worth
re-iterating that a 60Hz filter will usually be 3dB down at 60Hz and only 15dB down at
30Hz. 30Hz will sound about a third as loud as it would if there were no filter. However,
thanks to psychoacoustics, we often hear overtones of those frequencies as bass too so
most musical bass lines won't seem very different.
James.
-------------------- JRP Music - Audio Mastering and Restoration.
http://www.jrpmusic.net
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Santarosa
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Re: Same low(freq. ) cuts twice?
[Re: slightly]
#990665 - 31/05/12 03:53 PM
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I would say you could try to insert a simple low shelving eq. set to a very low freq., say
30 Hz, and start lowering it until you feel the low frequency is better balanced with the
rest. Then, using another equaliser, you could try and put a High Pass Filter also down to
a very low freq and start going up the range being careful not to make the bass drum weak.
Other think you could try is to find some mid-lo frequency that could also be
messing with the bass drum and apply a cut with a peak filter.
You could also,
before anything, try to use a gentle compressor making the attack a bit faster than usual
for low freq instrument. That could help you to get rid of deep low freq. Again, start
with the attack set to slow and then try to speed it up to taste.
I would try
that.
Chico
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