Count_zero
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ProFire 610
#990565 - 31/05/12 08:28 AM
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My ancient M-Audio Delta 44 sound card is finally starting to die. My local
shop sells the ProFire 610 and, from the company's own description, it sounds pretty
good. http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/ProFire610.htmlI use
a PC, Windows XP and my old soundcard slotted into a PCI slot so I would just need to buy
the ProFire 610, plus a cheap Firewire card that would slot into the PCI slot. Is that
right? Do you think this is a wise purchasing decision? Apologies
for my extremely basic technical knowledge!
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Pete Kaine
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Re: ProFire 610
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#990567 - 31/05/12 08:36 AM
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Go for it, the Profire is suprisingly good at it's price point. Just make sure your slot
in FW card is based around the Texas Instruments chipset and all should be fine.
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J_Naylor4
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Re: ProFire 610
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#990639 - 31/05/12 01:55 PM
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Yes, I bought a ProFire as a 'on location' sound card and it's been great! Amazing value.
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Count_zero
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Re: ProFire 610
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#990910 - 02/06/12 04:29 AM
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Well, I went out and bought the 610.
The only problem I'm having so far is that
I can't seem to sample from CDs.
If I play a CD, I can see the signal on the
master out faders. In Cooledit, the 'waveform record' is set to 'Profire 610 Multi', but
it doesn't record a signal.
I can record using a mic input on the 610 perfectly
fine. The only difference between CDs and mic is that the mic signal also shows up on the
'analog in' faders.
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Billum
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Re: ProFire 610
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#991169 - 03/06/12 10:08 PM
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One option you could use is to connect the SPDIF output to the SPDIF input with a phono
(RCA) cable, then the output you're playing back from the CD would appear at the input
again for sampling.
You'd have to be careful that the SPDIF input isn't also
routed to the same SPDIF output (using the PF610's routing mixer) or else you'd be at risk
of an ear-splitting feedback loop!
Great unit though - I use its big sister
the PF2626 nearly all the time.
Edited by Billum (03/06/12 10:10 PM)
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Pete Kaine
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Re: ProFire 610
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#991491 - 06/06/12 09:15 AM
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Quote Count_zero:
The only
problem I'm having so far is that I can't seem to sample from CDs.
If I play
a CD, I can see the signal on the master out faders. In Cooledit, the 'waveform record'
is set to 'Profire 610 Multi', but it doesn't record a signal.
Fairly common as that feature was always
driver dependent in XP from interface to interface. Aside from that in Win7 MS have even
intentially removed/blocked this ability from some cards that can do it in XP(all in the
name of DRM).
However I'm pretty sure Cooledit will just let you extract the
audio from CD without having to route any signal through the card, which should bypass the
problem for you. Failing that look up VAC (Virtual Audio Cable) if your really stuck, as
it'll cost you a few quid but should solve it for you completely.
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Count_zero
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Re: ProFire 610
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#991729 - 07/06/12 06:24 AM
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Thanks Billum and Pete Kaine, It seems that what I’m trying to do here is
termed “record what you hear” and that there is no function to do this on the Profire
610. http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=support.faq&ID=f59602cb67365ebe1f6
f286e0d0ecd35So I can either try some software such as Virtual Audio
Cable, or using a physical wire to route an output to an input. I wonder which solution is
best for convenience and maintaining sound quality? Pete wrote: “However I'm pretty sure Cooledit will just let you extract the audio from CD without
having to route any signal through the card” I do have an audio editor that I
can ‘drag and drop’ songs from a normal CD album into. However, I would also like to
sample from MP3s and from DVD movies.
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BJG145
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Re: ProFire 610
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#991753 - 07/06/12 09:21 AM
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I've puzzled over this in the past. It seems such a simple, common thing to want to do I'm
surprised there aren't more obvious free alternatives to Virtual Audio Cable. I usually
end up looping the output back to the input, but I guess doing it virtually would be
simpler and better.
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Pete Kaine
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Re: ProFire 610
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#991754 - 07/06/12 09:29 AM
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Quote Count_zero:
So I can
either try some software such as Virtual Audio Cable, or using a physical wire to route an
output to an input. I wonder which solution is best for convenience and maintaining sound
quality?
VAC would be
done all ITB where as a physical cable would need it to go through a set of convertors and
a cable, so I'd say keeping it fully digital in the box would certainly be better for
maintaining sound quality.
Quote
Count_zero:
I do have an audio editor that I can ‘drag and
drop’ songs from a normal CD album into. However, I would also like to sample from MP3s
and from DVD movies.
Well
you can just drop the mp3 stright into the editor. Dvd would be more problematic and
require you to demux the audio from the video container... not a problem but it is time
consumming and something I'd just use VAC type application for personally.
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Billum
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Re: ProFire 610
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#991774 - 07/06/12 11:54 AM
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Agreed that a well-implemented ITB solution is likely to get you the best results, but a
single phono cable from the SPDIF out back into the SPDIF in avoids going through the
DA/AD again and keeps the signal digital the whole way, so should be of a comparable
quality to ITB.
I'd just give it a bit of a fiddle and see what works best for
you!
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Pete Kaine
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Re: ProFire 610
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#991781 - 07/06/12 12:18 PM
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Quote Billum:
but a single phono
cable from the SPDIF out back into the SPDIF in avoids going through the DA/AD again
Fair point, gotta be worth a go
then.
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