Hi. To rig my mics in ORTF to exact dimensions, i scavenged my boxes to find two clips that gave a small height difference so i can fit xlr's to the mics. (MC930's)

easily solved.....but is there a stereo bar that offers this function?

anyone got one?

cheers

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PA stuff on FB

Ditto the above.

Plus...

After years of using poorly built and unsatisfactory stereo bars I finally settled on a Sabra Som and it really was a breath of fresh air. It is very well built and has neat little 'towers' on a hex bar that help you angle and separate the mic's. I still suffer the problems 'loose in the perfect position/tight when the mic's are off kilter', but it's much easier to sort out with the Sabra.

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An Eagle for an Emperor, A Kestrel for a Knave.

Using a thread adapter to gain some extra height between the mics is the usual solution, but in my opinion entirely pointless.

If you work out the amount of angular error at the capsule if you don't bother with a stand-off you'll see it is tiny -- typically less than 7 degrees.

Worst case I could come up with was using a pair of Neumann KM184s in XY, since these are the shortest and stubbiest mics I know of that you might want to rig as XY or ORTF and so cross their bodies over.

As this scale diagram shows the error is only +/-7 degrees. With longer mics the error will be much less.



This kind of vertical angular error is utterly insignificant in comparison to the huge horizontal angle over which you expect the mic to capture the stereo sound field.

So my advice: use a stand adapter to gain height for one mic if you prefer the look of neatly parallel mics, but you won't hear the difference and I never bother!

Hugh

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Technical Editor, Sound On Sound

onward and upward.

some practical solutions and a deepening of knowledge (re: angular offset & vertical orientation of capsules.

I will most likely adopt the compromise (Hugh's contribution) as i am unhappy with things not nicely tightened up.....

much appreciated

steve

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onward and upward.

some practical solutions and a deepening of knowledge (re: angular offset & vertical orientation of capsules.

I will most likely adopt the compromise (Hugh's contribution) as i am unhappy with things not nicely tightened up.....

much appreciated

steve

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You can do it properly as there are several stereo bars around with different degrees of engineering. Some coming complete with the riser and having accurately marked angles and distances for quick and easy set-up. But the best of these cost a few hundred pounds.

Yes, I went for the expensive one.

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John - Sound-Link ProAudio
President - Federation Internationale des Chasseurs de Sons