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Dave Browne



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Izotope Alloy vs Ozone
      #992937 - 15/06/12 08:47 AM
Hi! I need to do both mixing/track processing and mastering, and I'm on a very tight budget. I have Wavelab and Cubase, but no additional effects plugins. I really need a good EQ and compressor, and I'm interested in the exciter to warm up some of my tracks (I'm from an analogue background and miss that warmth).

I'm considering Izotope Alloy or Ozone, but I'm struggling with which one will be best, and why I would need both. Is there anything stopping me using Ozone on an individual track or bus? If I bypass all the modules I'm not using, this should keep the CPU load down?

And what would be the advantage of having both - at a first glance, the individual modules look very similar between both products.

Thanks in advance for your help.
Dave


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Dynamic Mike



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Re: Izotope Alloy vs Ozone new [Re: Dave Browne]
      #992944 - 15/06/12 09:27 AM
Hi Dave,

I use Ozone 4 in exactly the way you're suggesting. Prior to Ozone 5 switching the individual modules off didn't actually reduce the CPU load, which I think was the original benefit of having Alloy.

To be honest, I don't find it that much of a CPU hog anyway, I tend to use it on group tracks in cubase 6.5 & on the master with no problems, so I didn't feel the need to upgrade to Ozone 5.

Hope this helps, DM

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Re: Izotope Alloy vs Ozone new [Re: Dave Browne]
      #992950 - 15/06/12 09:48 AM
FYI, I just bought Alloy from Audiodeluxe.com for $130 (about £84) using their 'Make an offer' service. Haven't seen it cheaper anywhere else, if you decide to go down the Alloy road...

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Dave Browne



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Re: Izotope Alloy vs Ozone new [Re: Dave Browne]
      #993162 - 16/06/12 02:05 PM
Thanks for the input, guys, much appreciated.

So it sounds like I can successfully use multiple instances of Ozone as a track/bus plug-in, but I'll need to watch out for CPU load if I use a few.

Any more insight into the specific advantages of Alloy over Ozone as a mix plugin would be much appreciated. I'm still struggling a little with the key difference between them in a mix context, and the additional mastering-focused facilities of Ozone seem to be worth having.

Cheers,
Dave


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Dynamic Mike



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Re: Izotope Alloy vs Ozone new [Re: Dave Browne]
      #993217 - 17/06/12 12:16 AM
I presume you are aware that you can download both & use them free for 10 days. I downloaded the trail of Ozone 4, and didn't bother with Alloy because Ozone was exactly what I was looking for. It's certainly made a massive difference to the quality of my finished tracks, the only criticism I'd have is that most of the presets sound slightly over-cooked on the mix bus. However, there's a single slider which allows you to increase/reduce the intensity of the entire plug-in. Personally I find whenever I've had an over-enthusiastic all night mix session, I can usually safely knock 15% off in the cold light of day rather than having to start from scratch.

Why not just download both & see which you bond with?

If it's analogue warmth you're after try the free version of Nebula 3 http://www.acustica-audio.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=articl e&id=20&Itemid=101 but be warned that IS a cpu hog!

DM

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Edited by Dynamic Mike (17/06/12 12:20 AM)


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Re: Izotope Alloy vs Ozone new [Re: Dave Browne]
      #993248 - 17/06/12 01:32 PM
Just to throw another viewpoint into the mix (boom boom), Alloy is on special at the moment, so I downloaded the trial. I own ozone and use it on most tracks now, but I just didn't like alloy. Maybe I'm not using it properly, but there you go.

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Re: Izotope Alloy vs Ozone new [Re: Dave Browne]
      #993301 - 17/06/12 11:09 PM
I tried the demo of alloy and didn't like it... but that's probably just me... here's another opinion from someone that loves it... http://forum.recordingreview.com/content/izotope-alloy-review-175/


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Re: Izotope Alloy vs Ozone new [Re: Dave Browne]
      #993383 - 18/06/12 01:13 PM

One thing that is great about Alloy is that you can externally side chain a single band of the multiband compressor.
I don't think you can do that with Ozone?


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Re: Izotope Alloy vs Ozone new [Re: Dave Browne]
      #993638 - 19/06/12 09:36 PM
Thanks all for your input.

I tested the Ozone free trial and it certainly does what I wanted - the spectral display in the EQ GUI is a superb feature I'd not seen before. Taking sambrox's 'best offer' advice, I actually managed to get the Mix and Master bundle (Ozone and Alloy) for under £190 from a US eBay seller, which I think is pretty good and was worth the bit extra in case I need any of Alloy's features for mixing.

Apart from a cursory look, I haven't tried Alloy yet (I'm out of the country on business until the end of the week). I'll have a proper play with them both at the weekend, but I think I will focus on learning how to use Ozone properly for now.

I'll also have a look at that free version of Nebula - sounds like some interesting technology.

Cheers,
Dave


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