One of our office girls joined in a school field trip recently (when it wasn't raining). Now the school is already in the middle of the country so it's not as if the kids were unused to it. However, when she started to make a daisy chain they were all fascinated, never having seen anything like it before (her own two were quite bored of course). What was even sadder though was that none of the other mothers had seen one either.

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Well, I've heard of daisy chains but I don't remember ever seeing one.

You missed out.

Go make one now. And take a photo.

Shocking!

On a related note, I was recently reminded of the old 'make a reed out of a blade of grass and produce horrible squeaking noises' trick the other day. And I'm still no good at it...

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Did you just knock up that diagram for this discussion Hugh?

I don't see as many daisies in grass these days, but then I now live in a city and don't spend all summer playing in fields.

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I don't see as many daisies in grass these days...

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I have to warn you all that if you look for 'daisy chain' on Urban Dictionary, you get something quite different. So don't do it.

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Instant gratification is actually pretty good. It's fast as well.

So the verse of the Good Ship Venus

Each sailor lad's a brother
To each and every other
We take great pains at our daisy chains
Whilst writing home to mother

isn't about flowers after all? I'm shocked to hear it!

The ex-girlfriend is a cookery teacher at a secondary school . The pupils :

- Are horrified when introduced to a real carrot . They have never seen one before .
- Need to be taught how to peel a real orange , but know all about swapping SIM cards .
- Claim real strawberries " aren't strawberry flavour ".

My mate's 18yr-old makes his own web sites but can't read an analogue clock face ( the ones with hands instead of numbers ).

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I thought a daisy chain was something you did with hard drives and firewire cables!

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I have to warn you all that if you look for 'daisy chain' on Urban Dictionary, you get something quite different. So don't do it.

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LOL - dread to think.

Usual advice is normally not to look at UD, surely?

We made daisy chains (with flowers) every lunchtime in the summer when I was at school. Those were the days... sitting on the lush green fields with the smell of freshly-cut grass, a Twister in one hand and a pile of daisies ready to make into necklaces and bracelets. Ah. Nostalgia.

Though it wasn't actually *that* long ago

Still, another thing to add to my "Things I'm definitely going to do with my kids when I eventually have some" list. Your post scared me, Folderol. What do kids (and their parents) DO these days..?

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... a Twister in one hand...

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Now you're talking! Best Ice Cream/Lolly ever. Hands down.

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What do kids (and their parents) DO these days..?

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Mums spend their time on netmums comparing notes on what is the best thing to do for their child, whilst the child is neglected in another room.

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You are one hell of a technical editor Hugh.....A shot of the good stuff for this man!

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... a Twister in one hand...

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Now you're talking! Best Ice Cream/Lolly ever. Hands down.

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White chocolate Magnum

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White chocolate Magnum

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Lies. Just doesn't stand up to a Twister! But that's another thread...!

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White chocolate Magnum

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Lies. Just doesn't stand up to a Twister! But that's another thread...!

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By a strange coincidence as it happens I have one of each in the freezer. I will have to do a thorough comparison of the two this weekend...

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It's funny in a way, but also very sad. Unless we run into a major cosmic eletrical storm soon I fear for the future.

Sorry to risk getting serious, but I think this below is one of the most prescient speeches I've ever come across and it seems relevant to both music appreciation and daisy-chain making.


Man finds himself in a perilous position… A far greater danger threatens [than the outbreak of a third world war]: the approaching tide of technological revolution in the atomic age could so captivate, bewitch, dazzle and beguile man that calculative thinking may someday come to be accepted and practiced as the only way of thinking. What great danger then might move upon us? Then there might go hand in hand with the greatest ingenuity in calculative planning and inventing, indifference towards ‘meditative’ thinking, total thoughtlessness. And then? Then man would have denied and thrown away his own special nature – that he is a meditative being. Therefore the issue is keeping meditative thinking alive.

Martin Heidegger
Speech commemorating German composer Conradin Kreutzer in 1955

My kids can make (the flower kind of) daisy chains. This is probably because they go to a Waldorf school. I had hoped they would learn to build synthesisers, but apparently Waldorf education is something to do with "A humanistic approach to pedagogy based on the educational philosophy of the Austrian philosopher Rudolf Steiner." A bit disappointing, really.

What is especially upsetting is that they are made to play the recorder. No, not a digital multitrack. It is a crappy, out-of-tune wooden flute that sounds like someone whistling down their nose.

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What about blowing the seeds off dandelions to tell the time or putting buttercups under someone's chin to see if they like butter? Do kids still do that? Actually, I still do that. Both 100% accurate methods.

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Your kids are very lucky SecretSam, I'd say. Wonderful approach to education.

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What about blowing the seeds off dandelions to tell the time or putting buttercups under someone's chin to see if they like butter? Do kids still do that? Actually, I still do that. Both 100% accurate methods.

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As long as you blow them into your noisy neighbour's garden, or similar. I've spent more hours than I care to count trying to rid our little savannah of the blighters.

As for ice-cream, strawberry split all the way. No euphemisms intended.

I dunno, Pete. Education just doesn't seem the same without the shouting and the beatings and the creepy suspicion that involuntary sodomy is taking place somewhere in the outbuildings. Or was that just my school ?

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I dunno, Pete. Education just doesn't seem the same without the shouting and the beatings and the creepy suspicion that involuntary sodomy is taking place somewhere in the outbuildings. Or was that just my school ?

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Hmmm. Sounds like one of those schools that was government 'approved'

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I dunno, Pete. Education just doesn't seem the same without the shouting and the beatings and the creepy suspicion that involuntary sodomy is taking place somewhere in the outbuildings. Or was that just my school ?

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Hmmm. Sounds like one of those schools that was government 'approved'

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Only in the sense that members of the Government sent their children to the same school they attended themselves

Andy

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Throw a party for your children's mates. Promise them the ultimate 3D reality gaming experience. Take them to the park.

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Nice picture hugh...

Funny, but I always thought from the technical erudition of your postings that you were quite alot older than that ?

He moisturises ... Olay really does work wonders you know

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Yes, it's sad that daisy chains are becoming a forgotten pastime among children, but I recently stumbled across a web site that claimed over 10% of children taking part in some survey thought 'Long John Silver' was a character in the Peter Pan stories

Just found a similar link including yet more sad statistics:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2161457/Whos-Harry-Potter-How-HALF-youngs ters-heard-wizard-identify-literary-characters.html

Very sad, isn't it?


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I dunno, Pete. Education just doesn't seem the same without the shouting and the beatings and the creepy suspicion that involuntary sodomy is taking place somewhere in the outbuildings. Or was that just my school ?

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Ha. Sounds like you had an expensive education. But yes, maybe Steiner schools are a bit too mollycoddling. Spare the rod and spoil the child and all that.

Tried st start a Steiner school once, but people wanted the process to be democratic so it never happened.

Yeah, I had an expensive education, too. Lots of beating and other futile punishments and though there wasn't much buggery, there was, if you'll excuse the phrase, always a whiff of it in the air.

On the other hand, my children, now aged 4 1/2 and 2, have a great time in the park across the street from our home and love being outdoors and playing with the chickens (if they can get in the run, so much the better, much more mess). they both adore the iPad, though.