Hi there!

I invite you to check out a project I've been working for the past months. We aim to be a Dj and Audio production Academy, we just launched an IndieGogo campaign to get funds for the equipment, check it here --> http://igg.me/p/115104

Thanksss!! And please, feel free to share it and talk about it with anyone who may be interested

Incentives Abound for Potential Contributors, From Customized Remixes to Free Introductory DJ Classes

Cambridge, MA – Having secured a location in the heart of Cambridge's Central Square neighborhood, Mmmmaven and its new academy The Mmmmaven Project seek to fund the final phase of the project: Equipping its students with the newest in DJ and production technology.

http://www.indiegogo.com/mmmmaven

From its beginnings inside of the Together Festival, Boston's only city-wide music, art and technology festival, Mmmmaven has made a priority of finding equipment for amateurs and semi-professionals alike to learn and practice techniques of DJing and new music production. The Mmmmaven Project is the educational branch of Mmmmaven, and will begin conducting regular classes in the realm of new music once it secures the equipment it needs.

To do this, Mmmmaven has launched a crowdsourcing campaign at the popular arts funding website IndieGoGo. The Mmmmaven Project, is much more about the community than any one single investor.

The new office and laboratory, inside the famous Carl Barron building at 620 Massachusetts Ave., will contain a wall of names. Anyone willing to give $25 to the academy project will have their name on that wall. "The benefits only go up from there," explains co-director David Day, "everything to having your favorite song getting a custom remix to complimentary entry into many of the events we'll have for the next calendar year."

The final level of contribution, set at $5,000, includes such “perks” as free entry into all Mmmmaven events, a customized DJ mix personalized to taste and free classes inside the project. 100% of the money raised will go towards the equipment needed to begin classes in Central Square.

It is also worth noting that Mmmmaven has negotiated a reduced cost of the equipment with a number of local businesses, and that the Project will hire instructors from within Boston, contributing in a real way to the truly local creative economy.

“Plus you have the satisfaction of knowing you’re investing in the future of music in Greater Boston and, maybe most importantly, artist retention,” says Maniatis. “Keeping our creative community happy in this city is one of our core missions at Mmmmaven.”

Founded in 2011, Mmmmaven is an artist agency, event production company and now, an educational institution, building a network of talent from the grassroots and up. In the final stretch, they are asking the community at large to make the dream a reality.

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How do you pronounce that?

This is just wrong (yes I know I said I would not post) but I see you are somewhere in America and it is not Detroit where the best DJ's came from. I would hate a 16 year old to believe that this might help them. It won't.

To be a DJ you have to have the ability to produce your own music, and network with the best labels, and even then wait 10 years or so to begin.

At that point, you might get the odd gig, when you might get an agent you can trust and eventually make more money in a year than your Mum and Dad made in a lifetime.

Like Hendrix, it is in the blood, and paying to attend a DJ Academy won't work. I know that New York is understanding European dance in a way that they never did before, so I presume this advert has something to do with that.

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This is just wrong (yes I know I said I would not post) but I see you are somewhere in America and it is not Detroit where the best DJ's came from. I would hate a 16 year old to believe that this might help them. It won't.

To be a DJ you have to have the ability to produce your own music, and network with the best labels, and even then wait 10 years or so to begin.

At that point, you might get the odd gig, when you might get an agent you can trust and eventually make more money in a year than your Mum and Dad made in a lifetime.

Like Hendrix, it is in the blood, and paying to attend a DJ Academy won't work. I know that New York is understanding European dance in a way that they never did before, so I presume this advert has something to do with that.

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Is this a new american variant of the 'Should I do a music tech course' debate ?

I would like to think that this forum at least would explain that talent does not need silly
qualifications and whatever. Talent makes its own way, and this advert is just your usual "lets make money from the young hopeful guys".

Edited by atechnogirl (20/06/12 09:03 PM)

If its being setup to charge fees or even as a freebie to give kids foolish dreams; I wish it nothing but miserable failure. Perhaps the OP can educate us as to why it is a good idea and correct me as to assuming its using crowd funding money to service a private enterprise with no direct benefit to its sponsors.

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How do you pronounce that?

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Sorta like - Mmmm donuts. You have to hold the 'M' I think. Mmmmmm. It takes a little practice.

"The Harvard of House" eh?

With fees to match?

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I just found this on the interweb
'A maven (also mavin) is a trusted expert in a particular field, who seeks to pass knowledge on to others.'
Well that's nice. Like Obi-Wan Kenobi 'cept he'd be a Professor of DJ and not a Jedi Master.

Edited by Airfix (20/06/12 11:06 PM)

< - you've switched off your beat matching computer..?>


"Trust your feelings, feel the tempo's..."

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Feel the tempo's what exactly?

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..the tempo's force of course. jeez hollowsun. It's all about the binding, metaphysical, and ubiquitous power of the DJ and the future of music education in space.

DJ eh?

How to devalue oneself ... put 'DJ' before your name...

DJ Jesus Christ

DJ Isombard Brunell

DJ Einstein

DJ Winston Churchill ... down viv da RAF boiz innit...

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How to devalue oneself ... put 'DJ' before your name...

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In the future, a thousand years from now, people might be proud to put 'DJ' before their names.
Prestigious DJ conservatories and academies could spread throughtout the know galaxy. It could happen.

Before this descends into a total beat down on the DJ and gets locked, I would suggest that people read "Last night a DJ saved my life" to see how the DJ (radio and club) has played a pivotal role in the music business.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Night_a_DJ_Saved_My_Life_(book)

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DJ Winston Churchill ... down viv da RAF boiz innit...

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Clearly not a Mauro Picotto fan then...

(I point anyone not overly familiar with mid 90's Italian house references in the general direction of Discogs for that one)

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Is this a new american variant of the 'Should I do a music tech course' debate ?

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Oh bollox, now you've done it, it begins!

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I always get a bit suspicious about DJs who feel the need to prefix their names with DJ. We know they're the DJ, that's why we hired them. Now get on with playing the tunes and stop poncing about.

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As someone who has just joined this forum I am sorry to see such a level of cynicism. Some praise for showing initiative and trying to help youngsters would not go amiss. Personally, I would not feel qualified to comment having not sampled the goods.

As confuscious once said: "before speaking from a great height it is necessary to have first climbed the mountain".

Having said that, the name needs a rethink in my opinion.

Good luck!

You are all behaving badly boys, and showing your age. Being a DJ in 2012 is financially rewarding and if you can earn £5000 per weekend, with flights and hotels included, for 2 hours work then tell me about it, instead of sniggering.
At least Mauro got a mention which tells me that all is not dead on this forum (and Mauro is a very nice man).

Edited by atechnogirl (21/06/12 09:31 PM)

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As someone who has just joined this forum I am sorry to see such a level of cynicism. Some praise for showing initiative and trying to help youngsters would not go amiss. Personally, I would not feel qualified to comment having not sampled the goods.

As confuscious once said: "before speaking from a great height it is necessary to have first climbed the mountain".

Having said that, the name needs a rethink in my opinion.

Good luck!

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How is this initiative helping youngsters? It's adding to an already terrible problem of corporates leaching off of the dreams of the young. I'd really. Like the OP to come back and show us how this is any different to the already THOUSANDs of these things around.

It isn't cynicism, it's the few trying to protect the young from the gob shites out there.

atechnogirl - 'showing our age'...?

This always makes me laugh, if you are not being ironic.

Being old enough to hear the first acid and house tracks being played on John Peel dates this whole thing for me at being 24+ years old. Put that time bracket futher back and you could cover the period from 1958, to 1982 ! In that time we had rock and roll, The Beatles and the Stones, the rise and fall of progressive rock, punk, funk, disco and rap!!!

Yet, people are still jumping up and down to essentially the same sounds from Detroit and Chicago 20 plus years later. Its no more 'happening' than rock.

Its not new, it just seams new to each generation who forget that thier parents generation used to get arrested for dancing to this in fields!

Forgive us our jadedness if what was a glorious revolution becomes the basis for a 'university of dance'.

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They are not jumping around to the same sounds at all! Have you been to New York, Netherlands, Barcelona or Milan in the last year or two? Unless you know what you are talking about then I would stick with the old days, and maybe include yourself with Mumford and Sons.
Seems, NOT seams.

Edited by atechnogirl (22/06/12 12:42 AM)

And how many DJs earn £5k for such a slot? For every DJ you can name me that gets that I can name you a band that does £30k for a show and that's before ticket share and merch. The point being; absolutely there is great money for some in EDM. Buts it's the same in all genres; the top tier earns. Most don't!

On the other hand, would you like to meet a DJ mate of mine who regularly pulls £100k for a show?

None of which has anything to do with the initial post being another ringer for cash from the young.

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They are not jumping around to the same sounds at all! Have you been to New York, Netherlands, Barcelona or Milan in the last year or two? Unless you know what you are talking about then I would stick with the old days, and maybe include yourself with Mumford and Sons.

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Hahah....

Being as old as you are Narco, I would imagine it would be Brandon Block. No, I do not want to meet him.

I sense a disturbance in the thread.
An impending gathering of DJs!!

If I was on that money 5grand a weekend all ex paid in paradise I wouldnt be complaining here. I'd be busy wouldnt I? Go away DJs and stop stealing our wives!

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Being as old as you are Narco, I would imagine it would be Brandon Block. No, I do not want to meet him.

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Get [ ****** ]!! Brandon [ ****** ] block!!! Hahahaha!! Since when has he ever earned that kind of money!!!


Honestly ....

moving on.....


I thought you were an agent? Or are you an ex DJ?

Dance music pays my rent... I know what time it is.

B.T.W Deadmau5 is on the cover of Rolling Stone...so I see now see this whole 'EDM is blowing up in the USA' bandwagon jumping cash in.

Amirite?!?

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As much as EDM has gained big ground in the USA in recent years I can't say it was exactly tiny back in my day!! I can remember huge rave events n California and a very very healthy club scene in LA back in the mid 90s. It's not as if the USA completely ignored dance.....

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Amirite?!?

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Good golly miss molly. All over again.

Fair comment Narco - I think it just seams a bigger thing since it contrasts with years of Gangsta before hand, that pretty much put the damper on anything like dancing. Thats only for hoes right?
In comparison Skrillex is seen as an Emo freak , although it was the tail end of the commercial rap scene that let the euro sound in via Timbaland, Timberlake, Usher etc...

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As someone who has just joined this forum I am sorry to see such a level of cynicism. Some praise for showing initiative and trying to help youngsters would not go amiss. Personally, I would not feel qualified to comment having not sampled the goods.

As confuscious once said: "before speaking from a great height it is necessary to have first climbed the mountain".

Having said that, the name needs a rethink in my opinion.

Good luck!

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How is this initiative helping youngsters? It's adding to an already terrible problem of corporates leaching off of the dreams of the young. I'd really. Like the OP to come back and show us how this is any different to the already THOUSANDs of these things around.

It isn't cynicism, it's the few trying to protect the young from the gob shites out there.

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I mean, come on, do you have the first idea of the business? How DJing works? No, thought not. If you read the site carefully you will see that behind this scheme is a very real initiative to help underfunded youngsters.

That should be applauded not ridiculed by seemingly know-nothing-know-it-all's as it is here!

A lot of people don't like Dinner Jackets. I think that once one learns how to properly wear a bow tie the rest of the outfit falls down around it. That's the hang-up, asking kids to wear a dinner jacket but not properly educating them about how to handle the tie, and i'm not talking about those clip-on ones either, i'm talking about a proper yard of pressed silk!

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I mean, come on, do you have the first idea of the business?

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(scrabbles around looking for tin-helmet, hides under table and issues an "all-Mods" alert!)

Actually HE DOES...

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As someone who has just joined this forum I am sorry to see such a level of cynicism. Some praise for showing initiative and trying to help youngsters would not go amiss. Personally, I would not feel qualified to comment having not sampled the goods.

As confuscious once said: "before speaking from a great height it is necessary to have first climbed the mountain".

Having said that, the name needs a rethink in my opinion.

Good luck!

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How is this initiative helping youngsters? It's adding to an already terrible problem of corporates leaching off of the dreams of the young. I'd really. Like the OP to come back and show us how this is any different to the already THOUSANDs of these things around.

It isn't cynicism, it's the few trying to protect the young from the gob shites out there.

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I mean, come on, do you have the first idea of the business? How DJing works? No, thought not. If you read the site carefully you will see that behind this scheme is a very real initiative to help underfunded youngsters.

That should be applauded not ridiculed by seemingly know-nothing-know-it-all's as it is here!

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Narco is probably one of the most successful posters here and I'm sure he knows more than little bit about the music business.

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You are all behaving badly boys, and showing your age. Being a DJ in 2012 is financially rewarding and if you can earn £5000 per weekend, with flights and hotels included, for 2 hours work then tell me about it, instead of sniggering.
At least Mauro got a mention which tells me that all is not dead on this forum (and Mauro is a very nice man).

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It was supposed to be a jokey reference in reponse to the "Winston Churchil - Down with da RAF boyz" comment above it. Mauro a good decade before anyone really knew him as a DJ was running and engineering the RAF collective, which was responsable for a lot of remixes that PWL used to put on the flipside of their releases in the early - mid 90's. A lot of commerical dance which gained him the experiance and built him a studio to go on to become one of the defining artists of Trance.

One of the few superstars who was pulling that sort of money at his hight althrough I suspect not now mind. All said and done through a man who has worked his way up and paid his dues many times over in order to earn that postion.

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On the other hand, would you like to meet a DJ mate of mine who regularly pulls £100k for a show?




Yes, I would since you're offering. I'm waiting for an anvillike namedrop....no CLANG?, oh well, they'll have to remain nameless.

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