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turtles



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Gooseneck mic recommendation new
      #995429 - 29/06/12 05:34 PM
Short and sweet, this one.

New HoW venue almost complete. New lectern has been requested, one with integrated xlrs in the top so lends itself to a gooseneck.

Thus far I've used an AT8033 as a lectern mic as it's fairly forgiving of position- but has a rather scooped sound which I find underwhelming. Not used goosenecks before.

Anything in the £100-150 budget that's worth a look?

Ta.


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Re: Gooseneck mic recommendation new [Re: turtles]
      #995530 - 30/06/12 04:56 PM
We've got an Audio Technica Pro49Q http://www.dv247.com/microphones/audio-technica-pro-49ql--70156 doing lectern duties plugged into an AT 8646 shockmount XLR plate in the top of the lectern. http://www.studiospares.com/mic-mountings/audio-technica-8646qm/invt/44080 0/?source=215_74, and it pretty much does the job.

I was at a conference earlier this month and the podium had been set up with an AKG C747 and it sounded amazingly natural. When we need to replace the Pro49 I am certainly putting that on my shopping list.

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Re: Gooseneck mic recommendation new [Re: turtles]
      #995535 - 30/06/12 05:22 PM
I second the C747 is your budget will stretch to it (Also, how prone are your lecturers to move around? The 747 is quite a narrow pattern)....

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Re: Gooseneck mic recommendation new [Re: dmills]
      #995550 - 30/06/12 07:36 PM
Budget probably won't stretch to a 747 - plus, the preachers are fairly mobile and the lectern point often has more than one person standing at it for interviews etc. A slightly wider cardioid would be more forgiving. Like the look of those ATs, though, and worth a punt at that price point I guess...


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Re: Gooseneck mic recommendation new [Re: turtles]
      #995573 - 30/06/12 10:05 PM
How many xlr's have you got in the new lectern? I bought 2 samson goosenecks a while back for our school and although they are not the best they certainly do enough. can't remember the exact model but were about £65 each

Our hall is a nightmare for feedback (will be adding an eq just for the goosenecks soon) and have just used the 3 band eq on the desk to quash said feedback so they are very thin sounding at the moment. Hopefully will be able to warm the sound again up a bit with the eq. As we sit 300 students in a room 16m x 14m, whoever is speaking has to turn to address the wings on a regular basis, hence the 2 units for coverage

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Re: Gooseneck mic recommendation [Re: turtles]
      #995588 - 01/07/12 12:31 AM
What is the main usage?

It's good to have the option of goosenecks if your lectern has the facility. But if the main users are more mobile I would make a long term plan to get a good lavalier or two, belt packs and a radio receiver. And in the short term I would get a cheaper gooseneck with the option of a second later for maximum flexibility.

That way your regular speakers get the freedom of movement they need, but there is something reasonable for the typical occasional speaker who needs a reassuring grip on the lectern.

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Re: Gooseneck mic recommendation new [Re: zenguitar]
      #995655 - 01/07/12 06:03 PM
Two xlr sockets on top of the lectern. Very visible (perspex), so looking for short mounting stems.
Already have a bunch of lavs and over-ear mics for the more mobile users- but several users are most comfortable in a static position and their preference is for a fixed mic. As they are the onse doing the talking, my job is to keep them comfortable so hence looking for a gooseneck that will do the job.

Must admit i have never really worked out the reason for two xlr sockets (or two mics, for that matter) unless it's to do with redundancy in the event of a failure. To my mind, two mics close together pointing at the same source, but a little bit apart from each other, will cause phasing/ combing if the signals are combined- hence a weedy, reedy sound. It's not like these are eveer set up as xy config...


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Re: Gooseneck mic recommendation new [Re: turtles]
      #995660 - 01/07/12 07:38 PM
Quote turtles:

Two xlr sockets on top of the lectern. Very visible (perspex), so looking for short mounting stems.
Already have a bunch of lavs and over-ear mics for the more mobile users- but several users are most comfortable in a static position and their preference is for a fixed mic. As they are the onse doing the talking, my job is to keep them comfortable so hence looking for a gooseneck that will do the job.

Must admit i have never really worked out the reason for two xlr sockets (or two mics, for that matter) unless it's to do with redundancy in the event of a failure. To my mind, two mics close together pointing at the same source, but a little bit apart from each other, will cause phasing/ combing if the signals are combined- hence a weedy, reedy sound. It's not like these are eveer set up as xy config...




Sennheiser ME36 mics might be worth the look then.

In as far as why two XLRs, it is primarily for redundancy in most cases I have dealt with. If one starts having problems you switch to the other. You may even be able to get an automixer to do this automatically in certain cases as well, but you are better off doing it manually.

Especially in broadcast this is fairly standard practice to my knowledge (Keeping in mind I don't do much with broadcast and haven't for a little bit now). The basic thinking applies to anywhere though, if any moment of your show depends on one cable, mic, light, whatever, have a backup ready to go when it fails(And thanks to Murphy, it will).

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Re: Gooseneck mic recommendation new [Re: turtles]
      #995680 - 01/07/12 10:08 PM
Thanks. Hadn't considered Sennheiser and I like the idea of chopping/changing capsules if needed keeping the gooseneck stable. Will have a look!


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