sabletones
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file deletes and FAT32 system continuity
#995934 - 03/07/12 11:55 AM
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Hi I use a fostex D2424LVmk11 as a back up recorder mainly. I use the option to save to
a FAT32 formatted CF card, which i can pass to people who use DAW's for mixing etc.
the Fostex manual explains DAT file deletions are best done on Fostex unit and not
on a computer...to maintain FAT system continuity.
I have had to make x2
programme deletions (x8 track/files and x2 track files)on computer as i was unsure of
Fostex instructions on deleting in the recorder unit. I am still trying to get to grips
with the latter. For now, can someone briefly explain FAT 32 system continuity, how
my computer can mess it up, and how it can result in slower read/write operations.
Do you think my x2 deletions have compromised the CF card much.
A few
questions there but many thanks in advance.
steve
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sabletones
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Re: file deletes and FAT32 system continuity
[Re: sabletones]
#995935 - 03/07/12 12:00 PM
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Sorry...i meant to write....when saving a WAV file not a DAT...in case it makes a
difference
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BJG145
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Re: file deletes and FAT32 system continuity
[Re: sabletones]
#995936 - 03/07/12 12:04 PM
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Quote:
<Note on deleting a
DAT file>: The unit can save a DAT file but cannot delete a DAT file. You can delete a
DAT file from a personal computer. Do not delete the BACKUP storage folder (only delete a
DAT file). Also note that, by deleting a file, the continuity of the FAT system is lost,
which may result in slower data reading/writing speed. If you want to delete an individual
program in a DAT file, load the DAT file to the unit and use the program delete function
of the unit.
Sounds like
they're talking about fragmentation -
http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/F/fragmentation.html
I
shouldn't worry about it. I guess you could always defrag the drive if it starts to slow
down noticeably.
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sabletones
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Re: file deletes and FAT32 system continuity
[Re: sabletones]
#995943 - 03/07/12 12:22 PM
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cheers for that stops me worrying in the short term
steve
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Madman_Greg
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Re: file deletes and FAT32 system continuity
[Re: sabletones]
#996036 - 03/07/12 10:10 PM
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I don't know your particular system so I'll reply from a logical and theoretical
perspective
The file system will remain intact if you delete on your PC
But it is entirely possible that your system, stores a WAV (the recording) plus
other files associated with the recording, say metadata files or files associated with
effects settings or whatever.
When you used the delete function on your unit,
it clean up all the files, if this is the case.
On your PC you just delete
the WAV file.
The file system will be intact, but you will possibly have
files that are orphaned from the original WAV file. Or there could be a parent file which
points to the WAV and other meta data files associated with this recording.
Of course it depends on the design and how it is implemented. If it were me designing
this the files would all have the same name but different identifiers, i.e.
recording1.wav, recording1.dat etc... and be stored in relevant folder (WAV, DAT) with
the parent file in the root direct directory.
Just my thoughts any way
-------------------- Madman_Greg
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DonBelfastDJs
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Re: file deletes and FAT32 system continuity
[Re: sabletones]
#996422 - 05/07/12 11:28 PM
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I think fragmentation is the answer - the reason being PCs can be lazy about deleting or
formatting a disk - taking the easy route of deleting the information that tells the disk
the data is there, but not actually removing the data (which is why you should have a hard
disk formatted properly if there's ever been anything on it useful to identity thieves etc
before selling or giving it away)
PCs can also keeps tabs on stuff that can be
recovered, so it doesn't write over it in a sequential or efficient way - the most
efficient use of the hard disk would be to keep data in sequence, but PCs don't do that,
but your Fostex might by the sound of the manual's advice.
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