Hey all

Wasn't quite sure where to post this, hope here is ok. I'm slightly involved in this - shooting a documentary for my masters project - but should say:

a) Its not for profit
b) It will not turn you into a rock/pop/dj star
c) Has pretty much nil to do with music technology
d) Involves some very fringe, obscure, leading edge and off radar musical techniques and activities.
e) May change the way you look at, listen to, and create music

Its a 6 day summer school course, running at Bangor University in Wales - cutting edge contemporary classical music, but aimed at performers and composers of all abilities and outlooks. If anyone wants to have their sonic and musical imagination intensively stimulated by working with some truly sublime musicians, details here:

http://www.coma.org/deliver/SSchool12Brochure.pdf

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Eye Dog Eye Records

Joby Burgess!! Nice. Worked with him a lot.

+1 For Joby Burgess...

Years ago when I was a music undergrad, the university hired Joby's ensemble for a composers workshop, to play our fledgling student composition efforts - they were great (that's Joby's outfit, not the compositions.....)

Last time I was involved with the course - recording concerts and workshops in 2008 IIRC - Joby did some absolutely stunning concerts, amazing musician. But not just Joby, a real procession of hyper talented performers and composers working in a medium on the fringes of today's music, but with a degree of integrity and commitment which is generally absent from rock/pop/dance etc.

Its scaled back a little from its heyday in the late 90's early 00's, but even on the periphery just recording, I always came away inspired and full of ideas - I got the impression it was very considerably more so for the actual participants. If you've got a few hundred bucks spare, and can find somewhere local to stay (or go the whole hog and pay for residential) its the kind of thing that can be quite literally life changing, and great fun to boot!

Highly recommended.

Its a 6 day summer school course, running at Bangor University in Wales - cutting edge contemporary classical music, but aimed at performers and composers of all abilities and outlooks. If anyone wants to have their sonic and musical imagination intensively stimulated by working with some truly sublime musicians, details here:

http://www.coma.org/deliver/SSchool12Brochure.pdf

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Eye Dog Eye Records

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Just stop it! No mention of how much this school costs. If you have talent work it on your own. Watch out for the sharks even if they wear Josephs "techno" dream coat. Musicians today, must believe in their own talent and many of them have a new network discarding those who choose to make money with promises such as music schools.

They are mainly run by old failures, or those who had a hit in the '60's and need money in retirement because their management f***ed them over. There has never been a better time to push your own ideas, and this does not need men in suits.

Believe in yourself. play the clubs, organise your own agent and use facebook to guide people to your music. A word of caution is, that it really really needs to be good.

Edited by atechnogirl (04/07/12 09:45 PM)

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No mention of how much this school costs.

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The link mentions the costs at least twice..........

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Cubase, guitars.

Really? That is cool.

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Its a 6 day summer school course, running at Bangor University in Wales - cutting edge contemporary classical music, but aimed at performers and composers of all abilities and outlooks. If anyone wants to have their sonic and musical imagination intensively stimulated by working with some truly sublime musicians, details here:

http://www.coma.org/deliver/SSchool12Brochure.pdf

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Eye Dog Eye Records

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Just stop it! No mention of how much this school costs. If you have talent work it on your own. Watch out for the sharks even if they wear Josephs "techno" dream coat. Musicians today, must believe in their own talent and many of them have a new network discarding those who choose to make money with promises such as music schools.

They are mainly run by old failures, or those who had a hit in the '60's and need money in retirement because their management f***ed them over. There has never been a better time to push your own ideas, and this does not need men in suits.

Believe in yourself. play the clubs, organise your own agent and use facebook to guide people to your music. A word of caution is, that it really really needs to be good.

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To be fair the information is very clear and upfront. You can see exactly who the people are and exactly how much it costs. Not all music is club music. You can earn good money from sync, too.

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They are mainly run by old failures, or those who had a hit in the '60's and need money in retirement because their management f***ed them over. There has never been a better time to push your own ideas, and this does not need men in suits.

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How very odd!

Soundseed, thanks for this. It's too late for this year but my partner is very interested in this maybe for next year. As a "contemporary classical" composer she's just the sort of person who might benefit from this sort of experience.

CC

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Put the fun back into dysfunctional.
Mr Punch's Studio

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Believe in yourself. play the clubs, organise your own agent and use facebook to guide people to your music. A word of caution is, that it really really needs to be good.

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Im not really sure that that area of promo is aimed at contemporary classical!!

Just stop it! No mention of how much this school costs. If you have talent work it on your own. Watch out for the sharks even if they wear Josephs "techno" dream coat. Musicians today, must believe in their own talent and many of them have a new network discarding those who choose to make money with promises such as music schools.

They are mainly run by old failures, or those who had a hit in the '60's and need money in retirement because their management f***ed them over. There has never been a better time to push your own ideas, and this does not need men in suits.

Believe in yourself. play the clubs, organise your own agent and use facebook to guide people to your music. A word of caution is, that it really really needs to be good.

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The summer school is oriented toward people interested in composing and performing contemporary classical music, with a strong focus on developing repertoire accessible to non professional musicians, i.e. people doing it for the love of it. Its a fairly obscure and distinctly non commercial fringe of the music world, and personally I think its a noble cause and a bit of a cultural gem. The tutors are typically absolutely outstanding performers and/or composers, in some instances world class concert hall standard. They offer a doorway to an aesthetics driven sonic and musical world which is generally closed unless you are studying at BMus or higher level, with a focus on 20th century onwards.

I posted the information here because I think it is relevant to people working in rock, pop, dance and soundtracks, and offers the opportunity to broaden horizons, experiment and develop musical vocabulary in a manner that is completely unique. Speaking personally, my experience of working with CoMA has enriched my musical life on so many levels, and I've seen the same benefits to a multitude of musicians of all ages and backgrounds.

I think it represents the essence of music as communicative artform in a fashion which is fundamentally human. Its not about profit, or iTunes, or Facebook, or getting agents, or improving your search engine skills: its about music and the community of musicians.

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Its not about profit, or iTunes, or Facebook, or getting agents, or improving your search engine skills: its about music and the community of musicians.

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Amen brother! Couldn't agree more.

CC

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Put the fun back into dysfunctional.
Mr Punch's Studio

This is what happens when you don't have a Wikipedia entry. COMA stands for Contemporary Music-Making for All and has been around for years. It's mainly associated with the conservatory end of contemporary composition and does an excellent job in making that area of music accessible to anyone who's interested in it. It has nothing to do with either converted-warehouse music 'academies' of questionable merit or with organising short-lived entertainment events via Twitbook. Apples and oranges. And the occasional kumquat.

Any idea about the music courses which are recent in trend to learn?, all suggestions are well-come.

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Its a 6 day summer school course, running at Bangor University in Wales - cutting edge contemporary classical music, but aimed at performers and composers of all abilities and outlooks. If anyone wants to have their sonic and musical imagination intensively stimulated by working with some truly sublime musicians, details here:

http://www.coma.org/deliver/SSchool12Brochure.pdf

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Eye Dog Eye Records

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Just stop it! No mention of how much this school costs. If you have talent work it on your own. Watch out for the sharks even if they wear Josephs "techno" dream coat. Musicians today, must believe in their own talent and many of them have a new network discarding those who choose to make money with promises such as music schools.

They are mainly run by old failures, or those who had a hit in the '60's and need money in retirement because their management f***ed them over. There has never been a better time to push your own ideas, and this does not need men in suits.

Believe in yourself. play the clubs, organise your own agent and use facebook to guide people to your music. A word of caution is, that it really really needs to be good.

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Stretch That Note

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Its a 6 day summer school course, running at Bangor University in Wales - cutting edge contemporary classical music, but aimed at performers and composers of all abilities and outlooks. If anyone wants to have their sonic and musical imagination intensively stimulated by working with some truly sublime musicians, details here:

http://www.coma.org/deliver/SSchool12Brochure.pdf

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Eye Dog Eye Records

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Just stop it! No mention of how much this school costs. If you have talent work it on your own. Watch out for the sharks even if they wear Josephs "techno" dream coat. Musicians today, believe in their own talent and many of them have a new network discarding those who choose to make money with promises such as music schools.

They are mainly run by old failures, or those who had a hit in the '60's and need money in retirement because their management f***ed them over. There has never been a better time to push your own ideas, and this does not need men in suits.

Believe in yourself. play the clubs, organise your own agent and use facebook to guide people to your music. A word of caution is, that it really really needs to be good.

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Controversial.

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Ohm's Law states, "Your PA isn't as powerful as you think it is".

Just to conclude things, the course was tremendous ... great location, superb tutors, lots of amazing concerts, fantastic sense of community ... and absolutely no mention of how you can use facebook etc to progress your career in music, but lots on how you can play or compose better for no purpose other than the love of music.

A highlight was a performance from John Cage's songbook in a pub, which veered between the sublime, ridiculous, hilarious and moving in equal measures. Suffice to say there were some very confused and bemused bar staff and locals.

I shot loads of footage for the documentary - will post a link in due course.