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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: Masterclass]
      #997795 - 14/07/12 09:24 AM
Quote Masterclass:

...did you send something unsusual in the mail?




No that wasn't me.


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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? [Re: Masterclass]
      #997796 - 14/07/12 09:31 AM
'mon the Hebrides! Never has a part of the country punched so high above it's weight, and still remains the "off-the-shelf" example of cultureless nowheresville, or potential gulag location. Hoxton, next time, please.

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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: molecular]
      #998098 - 16/07/12 10:20 AM
Quote molecular:

'mon the Hebrides! Never has a part of the country punched so high above it's weight, and still remains the "off-the-shelf" example of cultureless nowheresville, or potential gulag location. Hoxton, next time, please.




Exactly! This lemming-like rush to the perceived centres of culture, means that there are thousand and thousands of people in London, NY, LA and a few other cities, doomed to failure, whilst music and the other arts flourish elsewhere and without them.

London was THE place to be in the 60s. Berlin was great in 80s, especially when the wall fell. In the UK, the Highlands and Isles seem to be the only places left where things are still relatively musically healthy.

If you want to go where music is happening, if you want to find 60s London or 70s NY, go to Africa. London is dying.


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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: The Red Bladder]
      #998100 - 16/07/12 10:39 AM
Quote The Red Bladder:

London is dying.




Perhaps 'evolving' might be a better description! Centres of fashion, culture, music, industry, education, and all the rest evolve, move, propser and dwindle. The timescales vary, but it has always happened and always will.

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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: The Red Bladder]
      #998105 - 16/07/12 11:03 AM
Quote The Red Bladder:



If you want to go where music is happening, if you want to find 60s London or 70s NY, go to Africa. London is dying.




What we have here is, essentially, an 11th Top Tip.


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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: Masterclass]
      #998107 - 16/07/12 11:06 AM
I quite fancy the islands myself.

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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: Dave Gate]
      #998129 - 16/07/12 12:14 PM
Quote Dave Gate:

Quote:

As I stated, I don't take investment advice from poor people!




Which is a pity, as I have some tulips here you might have been interested in.




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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: Masterclass]
      #998132 - 16/07/12 12:36 PM
Other top tips for composers:

12) After purchasing software, always check online to see if there is a more recent version available!

13) If you are unsure as to what a particular media term means, such as 'ad agency' for example, try using google and this will probably turn up the answer.

14) When saving projects in Cakewalk (or similar) try saving using descriptive terms and numbers to avoid confusion. For example: 'Steve's track' is fine, but 'Steve's track with louder drums 1' is even better.

15) If a client asks for an mp3, consider your options carefully. 128 is ok but 320 is better. Often, people will plump for the higher quality option but this very much depends on circumstance. i.e If you're emailing a 40min symphonic tone poem, 128 might be preferred.

16) Sample CDs are great. But how do we decide which one to buy? Well, there are a range of informative reviews available in a number of industry magazines - such as SOS for example. If the review is favourable, this might indicate a positive response on the part of the reviewer.

17) When buying headphones, don't just go for the ones with excellent sound, technical specifications and durability. Also be prepared to try them on first to ensure a comfortable fit.

18) 'What is a showreel?' A showreel used to be literally a...show...reel. A 'reel for show' if you like. Now, fortunately, the term has come to mean 'my demo CD'. So, if a potential client asks to 'see' your 'showreel', fear not that he's asking to see clips of your work on theme tunes, ads and documentaries, no, he is merely asking to 'hear' your 'demo cd'.

19) 'The clock in my studio has stopped working!!'. Should you find yourself in this position, you are faced with the following options:

a) purchase a new clock
b) try replacing the batteries
c) if b) fails, seek repair from a qualified, but reasonably priced clock repairer.
d) decide on using other means of temporal monitoring.
e) relocate a clock from another part of the house/flat/workplace/office

20) When sending out jiffy bags of 'showreels', be sure to ensure correct stampage and that the address is printed neatly on the front. You may also wish to place your name and address on the rear of the envelope too.

Please feel free to add to the list folks. The OP might wish to embrace these suggestions and incorporate them into his course structure.


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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: Masterclass]
      #998134 - 16/07/12 12:52 PM
More tips...

21) Climb onto your neighbour's roof and dangle a fish on a bit of string in front of his windows. He'll think his house is underwater.

22) Buy a television set exactly like your neighbours. Then annoy them by standing outside their window and changing their channel using your identical remote control.

23) Minor skin grafts can be performed on pigs by covering any cuts and grazes with thin strips of bacon.

24) Save money on expensive personalised car number plates by simply changing your name to match your existing plate.

25) Don't waste money buying expensive binoculars. Simply stand closer to the object you wish to view.

26) Save time when crossing a one-way street by only looking in the direction of oncoming traffic.


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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: BJG145]
      #998135 - 16/07/12 12:56 PM
Quote BJG145:

More tips...

21) Climb onto your neighbour's roof and dangle a fish on a bit of string in front of his windows. He'll think his house is underwater.

22) Buy a television set exactly like your neighbours. Then annoy them by standing outside their window and changing their channel using your identical remote control.

23) Minor skin grafts can be performed on pigs by covering any cuts and grazes with thin strips of bacon.

24) Save money on expensive personalised car number plates by simply changing your name to match your existing plate.

25) Don't waste money buying expensive binoculars. Simply stand closer to the object you wish to view.

26) Save time when crossing a one-way street by only looking in the direction of oncoming traffic.




Brilliant !!


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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: Phil O]
      #998138 - 16/07/12 01:14 PM
The joy of copywritng for Viz!

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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: The Red Bladder]
      #998144 - 16/07/12 01:49 PM
Quote The Red Bladder:



If you want to go where music is happening, if you want to find 60s London or 70s NY, go to Africa. London is dying.




On an artistic level? Probably. But its not dying. Far from it.


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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: narcoman]
      #998146 - 16/07/12 02:08 PM
Quote narcoman:

Quote The Red Bladder:

London is dying.




...it's not dying. Far from it.




I disagree wholeheartedly. It certainly is.

http://www.colournation.com/

Edited by Hugh Robjohns (16/07/12 04:22 PM)


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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: Masterclass]
      #998152 - 16/07/12 02:29 PM
Look is it or isn't it .. because I should like to know - as I've just sold up - and purchased a small hut on the Orkney Islands .. where I expect to find fame, fortune & financial stability via excessive wealth .. not to mention artistic satisfaction.


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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: Masterclass]
      #998154 - 16/07/12 02:31 PM
.. and if it doesn't work out .. I should go to ... Africa ?
Any particular part of Africa ? Or just anywhere's good ?


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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: ]
      #998157 - 16/07/12 02:33 PM
Quote oui, miss reidy:

Quote narcoman:

Quote The Red Bladder:

. London is dying.




...it's not dying. Far from it.




I disagree wholeheartedly. It certainly is.

http://www.colournation.com/




What colour 'dye' is being used?

I suppose if London does 'die' then it'll be black.

But whatever, it looks as if the usually impeccable standard of literacy we had is, 'dying'

Edited by Hugh Robjohns (16/07/12 04:23 PM)


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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: Masterclass]
      #998177 - 16/07/12 04:27 PM
Eh? Dieing would be related to making something from a "die" - as in to do with casting. The progressive form of "die" is "dying".


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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: narcoman]
      #998184 - 16/07/12 05:00 PM
Quote narcoman:

Eh? Dieing would be related to making something from a "die" - as in to do with casting. The progressive form of "die" is "dying".




Nope, the 'die' you refer to is a noun. There are some instances of words being both nouns and verbs - "Barclays is a bank" - "But I won't bank there"

yes you can say the "die is cast" just as you could say "the song played"

Yes 'die' is both a noun and a verb, but in the case of this word you cannot verbify the noun, you will not hear "I will die you" but you will hear "the worker will dye the cloth red"

'ing' at the end of a word is the 'gerund' applied to continuous tense verbs. There are progressive nouns in so much as you might hear "progressive music"

But when do you hear of "a bird birding" or "a rock rocking"

You will hear of "a singer singing" because again the root of the words can mean it can be a verb or a noun, whereas a 'die' is not, except in different contexts.

I cannot ever remember hearing anyone say "a die die-ing" or "a bath bathing"

You could however hear someone say "I am living my life" but you would not say "I am dying my die"

But you could, if changing the colour of your die, that is immersing the item in dye to change its colour you could say "I am dyeing my die"

It's all academic now anyway as for some reason the post with the examples referred to has been edited, they never tell us why though?


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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: narcoman]
      #998186 - 16/07/12 05:01 PM
Quote narcoman:

- as in to do with casting".




Nooooo, that's 'auditioning'

Hth


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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: OneWorld]
      #998187 - 16/07/12 05:04 PM
Quote OneWorld:

they never tell us why though?




Yes, i'm diying to find out why.


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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: ]
      #998188 - 16/07/12 05:05 PM
Quote oui, miss reidy:

Quote narcoman:

- as in to do with casting".




Nooooo, that's 'auditioning'

Hth




Not without a couch! and would that be 'The Casting Couch' or someone 'casting the couch out the window', or 'the cast, cast the casting couch out the window' !


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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: ]
      #998189 - 16/07/12 05:07 PM
Quote oui, miss reidy:

Quote OneWorld:

they never tell us why though?




Yes, i'm diying to find out why.




Don't old your bref

Oh, and of course there is the Welsh name - Dai, so what do we call a Welsh clown - Daijest of course!


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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: Masterclass]
      #998194 - 16/07/12 05:35 PM
the point being, to be in the process of becoming "dead" is dying. Someone seemed to indicate it was not.


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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: Pete Kaine]
      #998210 - 16/07/12 06:58 PM
Quote Pete Kaine:

Quote Dave Gate:

Quote:

As I stated, I don't take investment advice from poor people!




Which is a pity, as I have some tulips here you might have been interested in.




Keeping it oldskool! Seriously what could go wrong...




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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: OneWorld]
      #998212 - 16/07/12 07:05 PM
Quote OneWorld:

Quote oui, miss reidy:

Quote OneWorld:

they never tell us why though?




Yes, i'm diying to find out why.




Don't old your bref

Oh, and of course there is the Welsh name - Dai, so what do we call a Welsh clown - Daijest of course!



... and the Welsh translation of the Bible - The Daiversion


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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: blue manga]
      #998217 - 16/07/12 07:43 PM
Quote blue manga:

.. and if it doesn't work out .. I should go to ... Africa ?
Any particular part of Africa ? Or just anywhere's good ?




Balamory.


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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: ]
      #998219 - 16/07/12 07:47 PM
Quote ow:

Quote blue manga:

.. and if it doesn't work out .. I should go to ... Africa ?
Any particular part of Africa ? Or just anywhere's good ?




Balamory.




I think I missed the series of Balamory where it was in Africa.

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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: ]
      #998220 - 16/07/12 07:49 PM
Quote ow:

Quote blue manga:

.. and if it doesn't work out .. I should go to ... Africa ?
Any particular part of Africa ? Or just anywhere's good ?




Balamory.




However, the remake of "Gorillas In The Mist" that they filmed in Tobermory was A1+

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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: Hugh Robjohns]
      #998237 - 16/07/12 09:46 PM
Quote Hugh Robjohns:

Time to draw this to a close before it goes really down hill...

H




Any time now d'you reckon?

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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: Masterclass]
      #998256 - 16/07/12 11:42 PM
My drummer friend media composer has a smoking jacket and a racy cravat for mixdowns. Perhaps this should be added to the list of tips. With such suave attire, that might account for his success.

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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: hollowsun]
      #998291 - 17/07/12 07:46 AM
Our learn'd friend has missed out rule number 1 in music.

1. Always, without fail, record your up and coming act via a console with the following two buttons: "Talent" and "DFA".


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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: Mike Stranks]
      #998294 - 17/07/12 07:56 AM
Quote Mike Stranks:

Quote OneWorld:

Quote oui, miss reidy:

Quote OneWorld:

they never tell us why though?




Yes, i'm diying to find out why.




Don't old your bref

Oh, and of course there is the Welsh name - Dai, so what do we call a Welsh clown - Daijest of course!



... and the Welsh translation of the Bible - The Daiversion




A long time ago, when I was but a callow youth of some 19 or 20 summers, I had a friend in Ruthin in North Wales called Dai and Dai and I were in the Feathers (pub at the corner at the bottom of the hill) and he was telling me about his divorce. She wanted the house and he was painting a very black picture.

"So you want her to just vanish?" I asked.

"Good Heavens! I don't want her killed!" he exclaimed.

And I said "I didn't say that you wanted her to die, Dai, did I Dai?"


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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: shufflebeat]
      #998321 - 17/07/12 09:17 AM
Quote shufflebeat:

Quote Hugh Robjohns:

Time to draw this to a close before it goes really down hill...

H




Any time now d'you reckon?



Too late... it's gone down hill!

... but we may all be shortly adjourning to the Musicians' Lounge...


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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: Mike Stranks]
      #998333 - 17/07/12 10:55 AM
Quote Mike Stranks:

Quote shufflebeat:

Quote Hugh Robjohns:

Time to draw this to a close before it goes really down hill...

H




Any time now d'you reckon?



Too late... it's gone down hill!

... but we may all be shortly adjourning to the Musicians' Lounge...




Ha+1

Perhaps we could have a new section for threads which start to go downhill and can be put in a safe place where they can carry on without going further downhill.

I'd like to propose calling it 'the Valley'.

No, 'Valley of the Trolls'.

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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: molecular]
      #998363 - 17/07/12 12:01 PM
Quote molecular:


However, the remake of "Gorillas In The Mist" that they filmed in Tobermory was A1+




There was a programme on the other night called 'Grillers in the mist' all about people who like to barbecue at dawn.

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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: Commander]
      #998365 - 17/07/12 12:02 PM
Although Dawn wasn't too happy about it.

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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: Commander]
      #1000171 - 27/07/12 05:53 PM
Well that killed that then didn't it ...

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Re: My Top tips for TV Composers - do you agree? new [Re: Masterclass]
      #1000179 - 27/07/12 07:04 PM
I seem to be late to the party (again).
This thread hasn't just scraped the bottom of the barrel, it had to reach up to do so!

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