Kyosho
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PC to Digital Mixing Desk Set Up Advise (ADAT or Not ADAT?)
#998958 - 20/07/12 01:32 PM
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Hello,
I used to have an RME PCIe ADAT card linked up to my 16 channel digital
mixing desk which supported ADAT. Unfortunately my ADAT card has since broken and I don't
know whether I should go about buying another pci-e adat card for over £450.00 or is
there a cheaper (and just as stable way) of linking up my PC to the 16 individual channels
on my mixing desk? There are virtually no ADAT cards to choose from and I just can't
figure out if I should think about having a new recording set up and ditch the ADAT thing
altogether.
I've never tried any other set up before so I'm really looking for
advice on whether I should stick with the ADAT cards or try something different. Any
ideas / suggestions would be hugely appreciated.
I have a Windows 7, 64 bit
machine linking up to a Behringer DDX3216 digital mixing console. I currently record with
Cubase 5.
Thanks, Simon
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BJG145
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Re: PC to Digital Mixing Desk Set Up Advise (ADAT or Not ADAT?)
[Re: Kyosho]
#998965 - 20/07/12 02:02 PM
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The expense of RME cards and lack of alternatives is a PITA. You probably don't need to
spend £450 though - eg a Profire Lightbridge would give you 32 channels of ADAT, and
there's a nearly-new one here for £150.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/M-AUDIO-ProFire-Lightbridge-34in-36out-FireWire-
Interface-/150857922329?pt=Midi_Controllers&hash=item231fd53719#ht_500wt_1071
(Re: the missing power supply, you don't need it anyway as it's powered via the
firewire connection. But you'd need a firewire card and to check that drivers are
available for your OS.)
(Another auction here...)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/M-Audio-ProFire-LightBridge-Sound-Card-/23082519
7545?pt=Midi_Controllers&hash=item35be40ffe9#ht_618wt_1054
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Kyosho
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Re: PC to Digital Mixing Desk Set Up Advise (ADAT or Not ADAT?)
[Re: Kyosho]
#998973 - 20/07/12 02:44 PM
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Hi,
Thanks very much for the suggestion, it looks perfect!!
Can you
advise what a decent firewire pci-e card would be please? I've never used firewire so not
sure if the cards differ much?
Thanks again,
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James Perrett
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Re: PC to Digital Mixing Desk Set Up Advise (ADAT or Not ADAT?)
[Re: Kyosho]
#998975 - 20/07/12 02:47 PM
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Have you asked RME about the problems with your card? They're usually pretty reliable
unless you do something silly with them. Could you use a PCI card rather than a
PCIe? If so, you would have a wider choice of cards and could probably find something
secondhand. Alternatively, you could look at an external interface like the
Lightbridge already mentioned or devices from Presonus or Focusrite that also include
analogue I/O. James.
-------------------- JRP Music - Audio Mastering and Restoration.
http://www.jrpmusic.net
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Kyosho
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Re: PC to Digital Mixing Desk Set Up Advise (ADAT or Not ADAT?)
[Re: Kyosho]
#998980 - 20/07/12 02:53 PM
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Yep, it's a gonna sadly.  My computer only has PCI-E slots so PCI cards aren't an option which is a real pain! Are these firewire cards reliable? Will have to get one of these too! Still
cheaper than getting a new pcie adat card. http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/22914995/Lacie-Firewire-800-PCI-Express-Card
/Product.html?_%24ja=tsid:11518%7Ccat:22914995%7Cprd:22914995
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chris...
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Re: PC to Digital Mixing Desk Set Up Advise (ADAT or Not ADAT?)
[Re: BJG145]
#998998 - 20/07/12 04:16 PM
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Quote BJG145:
You probably don't
need to spend £450 though - eg a Profire Lightbridge would give you 32 channels of ADAT,
and there's a nearly-new one here for £150.
Yep - my old RME PCI ADAT card was no use on a newer computer. As I
was moving away from that type of setup, I didn't want to spent £450 on the raydat. Got
a Lightbridge off Bay of E for slightly over 100 quid, and it's been fine.
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Goddard
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Re: PC to Digital Mixing Desk Set Up Advise (ADAT or Not ADAT?)
[Re: Kyosho]
#999051 - 20/07/12 11:21 PM
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I'm in a similar situation. There was a similar thread recently in the PC Music forum: http://www.soundonsound.com/forum/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=982972&
page=3&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=365&fpart=1#982972You might
check out the Marian Seraph A3 PCIe card (3x ADAT I/O). Other PCIe-based options might be
the RME Digiface (3x ADAT I/O, but out of production) with HDSPe PCIe host card and MOTU
2408 with 424 PCIe host card. Do let us know how you get on! =Goddard
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Kyosho
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Re: PC to Digital Mixing Desk Set Up Advise (ADAT or Not ADAT?)
[Re: Kyosho]
#999108 - 21/07/12 12:40 PM
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Thanks guys for all of your suggestions. I'm incredibly torn between splashing
out £450 on the RayDat or going for the much cheaper FireWire / LightBridge set up. Does
anyone think the LightBridge set up will run in to problems or just be unstable? I guess in the long term I'd rather have a piece of equipment (RayDat) that is reliable
and means I don't have to keep faffing with it. But if the LightBridge set up works just
as well then why fork out over £200 more. Anyone with a Lightbridge (or
similar) set up have any feedback? Thanks 
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chris...
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Re: PC to Digital Mixing Desk Set Up Advise (ADAT or Not ADAT?)
[Re: Kyosho]
#999115 - 21/07/12 01:18 PM
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It the Lightbridge "Just Worked" (tm) for me. But that's on a Mac, with built-in
firewire.
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GooGoo
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Re: PC to Digital Mixing Desk Set Up Advise (ADAT or Not ADAT?)
[Re: Kyosho]
#999125 - 21/07/12 02:57 PM
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BJG145
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Re: PC to Digital Mixing Desk Set Up Advise (ADAT or Not ADAT?)
[Re: Kyosho]
#999126 - 21/07/12 03:02 PM
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Yeah, firewire cards with Texas Instruments chipsets are generally recommended. I used to
use a lightbridge with a cheapo Creative Audigy card which happened to have a TI firewire
socket, and it worked great until the day I plugged in the cable the wrong way round and
fried it. I'd have thought something like this should be fine if you have
a PCI slot.
£450 for 16 channels of ADAT is daylight robbery.
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Goddard
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Re: PC to Digital Mixing Desk Set Up Advise (ADAT or Not ADAT?)
[Re: BJG145]
#999153 - 21/07/12 07:39 PM
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Quote BJG145:
£450 for 16
channels of ADAT is daylight robbery.
I hear ya! Although it's actually 32 channels (4x) of ADAT I/O (assume you were
referring to the RayDAT).
And don't even get me started on the pricing of the
HDSPe PCIe host card (with only a single FW erm, audio bus port)...
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