Apparently it isn't.

This thread got locked seemingly because two professionals were engaging in an open and frank discussion:

http://www.soundonsound.com/forum/showflat.php?Board=MUSBIZ&Number=999 185

Yes, it did rather veer from the original topic but it is actually a very interesting and important subject and, from my understanding, one that affects many working composers. It's a shame the whim of the mods stopped this from being developed further because they felt a little uncomfortable about a little difference of opinion.

I thought Johnny made some very good points.

Was it locked because someone raised the subject of the infamous Sound On Sound wall chart?

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Apparently it isn't.

This thread got locked seemingly because two professionals were engaging in an open and frank discussion:

<a href="/forum/showflat.php?Board=MUSBIZ&Number=999185" target="_blank">http://www.soundonsound.com/forum/showflat.php?Board=MUSBIZ&Number= 999185</a>

Yes, it did rather veer from the original topic but it is actually a very interesting and important subject and, from my understanding, one that affects many working composers. It's a shame the whim of the mods stopped this from being developed further because they felt a little uncomfortable about a little difference of opinion.

I thought Johnny made some very good points.

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No, let's be honest. It got closed because you derailed it, as you have done before under your previous user name of White Car Man, have possibly done before (I have no idea whether you've had previous user names here), and will no doubt do again.

I have no idea what pleasure or satisfaction you get from doing this. But, in the case of this long-term user, I am closing my account as I'm sick of people like you trying to turn every subject into a joke.

To all those on here that I've had good times with: apologies if we have no other contact method, you won't be seeing me here again.

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Apparently it isn't.

This thread got locked seemingly because two professionals were engaging in an open and frank discussion:

http://www.soundonsound.com/forum/showflat.php?Board=MUSBIZ&Number=999 185

Yes, it did rather veer from the original topic but it is actually a very interesting and important subject and, from my understanding, one that affects many working composers. It's a shame the whim of the mods stopped this from being developed further because they felt a little uncomfortable about a little difference of opinion.

I thought Johnny made some very good points.

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Dave Gate's public annoyance with the games that you and your friends enjoy playing was by no means the only "can't you do something about this?" comment that the mods corporately and individually received about the direction that the thread you referenced was taking.

You won't believe it, but the mods do actually let things run on a long lead most of the time. However, there is a group of forum contributors who sometimes individually, but frequently in concert, delight in mischief. I know you would like us to allow you to have your unfettered fun, but we have to take account of the greater number who often find your joint contributions tedious in the extreme.

... and should you or anyone else wish to pursue the well-worn path of the place of humour in the forum then we'll be moving the thread to a more appropriate sub-forum.

In fairness Mike, Oui, Miss Reidy was barely involved.

I feel it only right and proper to step forward myself and declare that yes, I did attempt to both question, and discuss some of Nacroman's statements.

I shouldn't have done that.

And now I feel awful that Dave has flounced.

So, it's with a heavy heart that I say to Dave:

"Bye."

(that's not me flouncing by the way...I'm gonna stick around if that's ok)

Bollocks to this - its like a Sunday School here.

Delete me please. I can't stomach any more.

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You don't get out that easy.

I was reading that thread and found it quite interesting. As far as i could see there were two trouble makers on that thread and both of them had a little after their name.

Same as it ever was. No wonder this place is so quiet.

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In fairness Mike, Oui, Miss Reidy was barely involved.

I feel it only right and proper to step forward myself and declare that yes, I did attempt to both question, and discuss some of Nacroman's statements.

I shouldn't have done that.

And now I feel awful that Dave has flounced.

So, it's with a heavy heart that I say to Dave:

"Bye."

(that's not me flouncing by the way...I'm gonna stick around if that's ok)

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iIm up for a discussion. I'm not so up for a general "say black when I say white". Times change, laws change, work changes.

Moderation was fine. Worked didn't it?

The discussion would be fine if it didnt revolve around you saying "thats never the case" when I know different. I'm not questioning your experiences but for you to state that I am giving wrong information is just silly. As for protecting composers - Our company lands composers on our books work that would normally go to library and we bring back projects that go to Prague etc back into London. So I'd appreciate being spoken to with at least as much respect as anyone else on here.

Other than that - very happy to discuss this stuff.

(on a side note - I'm very gobsmacked that I'm typing all this on a train running back from London. Tech eh?)

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Funny how when I've expressed that view, I repeatedly been threatened with being banned!

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Funny how when I've expressed that view, I repeatedly been threatened with being banned!

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You're never rude though. Must try harder...... hahah

it's sock puppetry galore! I know a sock when I see one.

If it's any consolation to the mods, last time I was trolled by such a sock ("white van man") I pointed refused to rise to to it. Much to the detriment of forum entertainment, I might add.

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it's sock puppetry galore! I know a sock when I see one.

If it's any consolation to the mods, last time I was trolled by such a sock ("white van man") I pointed refused to rise to to it. Much to the detriment of forum entertainment, I might add.

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...and there's the rub......the lines are somewhat hazily drawn. I guess if someone is ONLY trolling threads then that is tedious, but of course there are some threads that cry out for some cheeky banter and even quality satire...but ultimately it is the mod team who must make the call, and sometimes they get it wrong ....and sometimes I reply humorously to a thread that I wish I'd kept my mouth shut in. Dave

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it's sock puppetry galore! I know a sock when I see one.

If it's any consolation to the mods, last time I was trolled by such a sock ("white van man") I pointed refused to rise to to it. Much to the detriment of forum entertainment, I might add.

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...and there's the rub......the lines are somewhat hazily drawn. I guess if someone is ONLY trolling threads then that is tedious, but of course there are some threads that cry out for some cheeky banter and even quality satire...but ultimately it is the mod team who must make the call, and sometimes they get it wrong ....and sometimes I reply humorously to a thread that I wish I'd kept my mouth shut in. Dave

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The Chinese govt have been trying to find a way to filter irony and sarcasm since the development of the 'net.If we find a way to do it here I can make us all rich.

Come to think of it the UK legal system hasn't got a great record in this area and they speak the language (kind of).

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Bollocks to this - its like a Sunday School here.

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You're quite right... some participants do behave like obnoxious children on a regular basis.

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Richie Royale, you misquoted me!! you changed my words. Bold! Off with his head Hugh.

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an apology would suffice - we've lost enough members for one day - let's not overwork the mods.

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hi all,

a little perspective, please! we're the lot of us stuck on a sinking ship (the music biz), and yet we're here by choice - no one put a gun to our head and said "compose, damn ye!". youtube is experimenting with banning anonymous comments in the interests of enforced civility, which i'd be fine with (i've posted my real name here once or twice). SoS may need to head that way, which wouldn't deter me from participating here but might chill a little of the fun ;-)

there are some individuals involved in this contretemps who i've found to be a little too impressed with themselves, and yet they've also been some of the most responsive to SoS member queries about the in's and out's o/t biz, so i figure it's not up to me to act as a "truth" squad. let's just relax and remember that this is just about pretty tones or 1's and 0's or whatever you prefer.

FWIW, i'm totally happy w/t mods. i think they do a great job and they're probably very good looking, as well ;-)

cheers,

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Messing with the integrity of 'quotes' is not right and far more degrading to the forum than heated exchanges.

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yeh .. that's what I thought it was ..

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You and me both dude. Don't worry about it, I prefer our version.

I'm suprised this thread is still going though! Not locked down by Hugh the Merciless or Mike "Klytus" Stranks.

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