Wondering what you would rather have and why? Mainly for lead sounds.

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It's like comparing the sound of a Tele to a Les Paul really innit

Personally I wouldn't want either, both too over used and wooo look at me I'm a Moog..so with your choice I would rather have a 101, the Moog sound don't really fit in well with what I do.
I tried it, loved it for a bit then went hang on...

I don't want to say what I would rather have in case people go buying them and prices go mad, I mean I just sold my Roland JX-3P on ebay for 350 quid! I feel guilty letting it go for that, I only wanted like 120 ish to cover what I paid for it few years ago

It's all down to taste at the end of the day and what colours you want to use

I've owned an SH101 and have an LP now. The LP is a more versatile instrument (two oscillators for starters) but there's plenty that it hasn't got that the SH101 has. The SH101 has a little step sequencer which I remember being lots of fun. It has a noise source - the LP's noise source is for modulation only. The SH101 has no functionality hidden in menus and a knob per function - I think people often forget the LP's interface is compromised. It sounds like a Roland not like a Moog although it doesn't sound like a Jupiter or a TB303 or probably even a Juno. The SH101 is a very nice very unique instrument and I do miss mine - of all the synths to go through the roof in value it's the SH101 I resent the most particularly as I used to own one! It was stolen in a burglary while on loan - I did get to keep a Moog Prodigy in return but that's another story.

So yeah the SH101 is a great bit of kit but ... whilst the SH101 is lots of fun, the LP on a good day is more inspirational if only because it has a more complex architecture.

I think it's horses for courses/you get what you pay for on this one:

SH101 - Fun, brash, prosumer monosynth from the 1980s
LP - State of the art electronic musical instrument

If I had to choose? The LP but I'd miss the SH101 a lot. There's a good case for owning both.

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neither..

a Telemark for me thank you..

or a Mono Evolver Keyboard




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neither..

a Telemark for me thank you..

or a Mono Evolver Keyboard

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Hi guys, dont think it will come down to one or the other. I just like theorising.

Junkie - You sold your JX - You've been threatening that for ever.

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What about the Dave Smith mophokey?? http://www.davesmithinstruments.com/products/mophokey/

I tried the Prophet 08 and though it was poor. I know some people may like it but after owning an Andromeda it was quite thin, lacked expression and paled next to good VAs.

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i found the mopho too brash or metallic or brittle or - dare i say it - digital or some such

not to mention the fact that it was an utter nightmare to program and at the time the free editor software was pretty poor

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Hi guys, dont think it will come down to one or the other. I just like theorising.

Junkie - You sold your JX - You've been threatening that for ever.

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it's truly nuts that the jx3p has gone up in price, it's not a very interesting instrument by any stretch

before vintage prices went really crazy most people scoffed at it

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A lot would depend on the song, if you wanted something to cut through the mix, that would lean to Moogsville, as would fast flowing lines - 101 more bending an LFO triggers (for me)

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Having used an SH101 for many years the answer is simple for me. I'd take the LP without a moment's hesitation. Moogs still have that sound that oozes class.

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+1 Those DSI MoPho's sounded well rather underwhelming and nothing a good VA wouldn't be able to pull of easily imo
I can just hear Dave going.. But I gave you (the market) what you wanted and you are still moaning.. It's analogue and has 1000000000 billion features... lol
The user interface on the desktop unit is also plain wrong much like a Roland Alpha Juno is also wrong... If designing a menu driven synth or similar people should learn from Ensoniq's ESQ-1 on how to actually do it properly.

Yes vintage prices are mad...even if it's rubbish it will sell for loads. With the 3P I think it's a combination of these factors;

It's analogue and analogue is cool, superior to everything ever made in the whole wide world, it's VINTAGE Roland and this thing is cheaper than a Juno..

Once people got them cos they couldn't afford anything else, they started popping up being used by artists..people catch on, demand stupidly goes up and once a crap synth no one wanted is now a crap synth people want to pay loads for.

No3 is this
http://www.kiwitechnics.com/jx3pupgrade.htm
They think it will turn it into some kind of Jupiter 6

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A lot of it depends on the type of music you like / make.
Obviously you should not pigeon hole instruments but...
If I use Roland synths for solos I always find they sound good for disco, or 'cheap' Italo sounds, or pop. Moogs seam to really sit well in rock tracks. Obviously this is a stereotype, but they have a warm creamy singing tone that seams to add a magic in prog rock. They can be funky as well of course.
I find its the same with Oberheim or Sequential sounds. They are used in dance and pop, but have that same singing sound that just sounds great in prog and German style elctronica.
Rolands are snappier and more...I dont know what the best term is.

For what its worth i think second tier analogs are OK value these days, around £400 can get you a JX or Juno etc in good condition.
What is the alternative? You cant just laugh at people, or write off Dave Smith just cos' you dont like the sound!!!

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I can just hear Dave going.. But I gave you (the market) what you wanted and you are still moaning.. It's analogue and has 1000000000 billion features... lol
The user interface on the desktop unit is also plain wrong much like a Roland Alpha Juno is also wrong... If designing a menu driven synth or similar people should learn from Ensoniq's ESQ-1 on how to actually do it properly.

Yes vintage prices are mad...even if it's rubbish it will sell for loads. With the 3P I think it's a combination of these factors;

It's analogue and analogue is cool, superior to everything ever made in the whole wide world, it's VINTAGE Roland and this thing is cheaper than a Juno..

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Thats sort of my point for this thread though Ken.

For a mint condition 101 "with" convertor you can get around £500 after Ebay fees. A LP1 (non USB edition) is around £550

So you can trade it yourself. Trade your 101 and convertor for cash and then buy a second hand LP (Stupid bloody name for the moog heritage BTW - Phatty - I bloody detest that stupid spelling!!)

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Thats sort of my point for this thread though Ken.

For a mint condition 101 "with" convertor you can get around £500 after Ebay fees. A LP1 (non USB edition) is around £550

So you can trade it yourself. Trade your 101 and convertor for cash and then buy a second hand LP (Stupid bloody name for the moog heritage BTW - Phatty - I bloody detest that stupid spelling!!)

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I have a 101 - it's a great, hands on, instant piece of gear.

It is limited in terms of the palette of sounds you can get out of it, and the limitations of the envelope are a bit annoying too, but it has some special things about it. Noise as source on the LFO can make some amzing fizzing and crackling stuff modulating the filter with it. It has a really cutting, strong sound, it really punches through in the mix.

I had mine modified by Circuitbenders and I can highly recommend the mod, it really opens up what noises the sh101 can make:

http://www.circuitbenders.co.uk/synthmod/SH101.html

I got mine from Japan on ebay years ago for £170 + a £100 mod so if you can find a cheap mashed up one and get it serviced and modded you could be on to a winner...

Hiya Jim,

I just think people who spell 'fat' 'phat', are either grandads trying to be hip and cool (A la Moog designers) or cringe worthy Hip Hoper types who wave there hands all over the place as they talk and try there best to string a sentence together that isnt about crime and drugs.

I thought Moog were in a different league to this. They invent coolness, not hop on fad words that if they sound bad today will sound horrendous in a decades time. Like looking back at the 80s with the big hair styles. WHat the hell was Moog thinking?

"Compuphonic" on a Jupiter 4 anyone?


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Hi mate. Sorry but I wouldn't dream of circuit bending a classic synth. I don't mind adding a MIDI interface to a Juno 6 or whatever but anything other than that to me is blasphemous and sacrilege.

Totally agree about the instant nature of the 101. And the Juno 6/60/106. Never has so much sonic power been know so easily.

Welcome to the forum BTW.

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A Moog for some reason has always been low down on my wants list.
Great synths obvioiusly, but not something I really want to own.
Unless I find a modular in a skip obviously.

I'm with you Kola on circuit bending. I have yet to hear anyone modding something that has basically improved the instrument. I'm sure there are some proper mods that can be done, some pots that can be adjusted, but most I have heard result in nothing but useless screaming, or glitching. Its not a coincidence that circuit benders basically play with cheap toys.

I sort of see the point of the Sh101 / phatty price comparison, but, well - I would not hold onto a 303 given what I could get for that.

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I had a 101 with some usefull mods.. Seperate outs for all the waveforms and more modulation inputs, nice if you have a modular system.
I used the BassStation keyboard more than the 101 though...

Man I just got outbid on a mk3 Revox A-77 and Korg 700s....not a good day.. But I did just get a Ensoniq EPS-16+

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Maybe they did, but when you get stuck in to programming it via the PG200, you realise there is a lot to this synth, not least because of it's two oscillator voicing with cross-modulation pathways. Lately, the midi retrofit/control options (by organix and kiwitechnics) really open it up and increase it's sound potential.
Mine sits above my JP8 and I'm often impressed by how well the sound stands up next to the "bigger" synth...
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Missed the boat like me with a J8 Elf. £1500 just 3 years ago and now selling for £5000?

Thats over 200% in a global slow down.

Id love to know what happened. Did someone realise the J8 wasn't actually ok it was superb? Im mean, surely this was common knowledge. What could happen to drive this phenomenal increase?

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To be fair it isn't only the JP8 that has soared in value......Bought my first JP4 in 2005 for £330 and consider the one I bought last month for £950 a bargain as prices seem to usually sit about the £1200+ mark. Pro-one's go for nearly £1000 after being in the £300 bracket a mere four years ago which is a 300% increase. Same with Synthex's, Juno 60's and many more...... even the humble Jen SX1000, the £50 bargain of yesteryear,is going for several hundred now......

Capitalism, supply and demand, Emperor's new clothes, call it what you will, but 'analogue' is going up in value better than most commodities!

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Not just analogue's but I have seen M1's go for way too much and DX-7's are creeping up slowly...

It's funny two adds in Gumtree, one guy selling a M1 for £300 and one selling a Triton classic for £300 ono..hmm wonder which is the better deal heheh

Fatbenleton

Whilst I agree a few prices have gone up like the Pro One that now fetches £250 more and can bring in £1000 from the usual £750 nothing has gone up £3500 or anywhere near that, and as such the J8 in in a league of its own.

A Jupiter 8s stuck at £1500'ish since around 1995 and woooosh - Its now a Synth that I class as totally unobtainable, certainly for my financial circumstances. Maybe when I win the Lottery.

Mind if I owned a J8 today Id sell it. I cringe thinking about some of the kit I currently have, the amount it costs and the fact you cant give good music away these days so I cannot class them as a tools as a plumbers tools earn him cash, and synths don't.

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A JP8 has gone up 300% or so and I can think of several synths that have 'benefitted' from similar growth. Elka Synthex similarly has gone from £1500 to around £4-5K.........A JP4 going from £300-400 to £1200-£1500 is actually higher growth...........

My point is that the 'sector' as a whole has seen growth with quite a few synths experiencing high growth at a rate of 200-300% - the higher priced stuff like JP8's and Synthex's look more extreme as the numbers are higher but the % growth is not exceptional....

Off course some items seem to lag behind in this growth:Korg DW8000's & Roland JX8P's still occupy the lower end and seem undervalued compared to other 'boutique' analogues. However, the truth is that these are going up in value and similarly have probably doubled in price but because they started at the low end of the market it doesn't jump off the page. About three years ago I bought both a DW8000 and JX8P in good condition paying £100 and £120 respectively. I would suggest that these two would now go for about £200-£300 which is not far away from the JP8 growth as a %........

In short I don't think the JP8 growth is unique- it was relatively expensive compared to other synths four years ago and remains so. Much like houses, the bottom tier 'first time buyer' prices have increased: if you were to make a list of 80's analogue synths and list them from cheapest to most expensive in 2000 and repeated the exercise today I would suggest that the hierarchy would be largely unchanged......The prices may have doubled or tripled but the relative positions probably remain the same. There will be the odd exception but the overall position is one of 'vintage synth' inflation across the board.

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Because of this, last year I bought a brace of second tier 80's analogs, instead of the usual - and for the price of - one good workstation style master keyboard that I normally have to replace due to wear and tear / fashion.

I think it was a good move, leaving the computer for the 'realistic' big ROM (RAM!) sounds, and having proper analog keys when I dont want to fire up the DAW.


There are some nice bargains still out there, and its easy to avoid the anomolies. But I reckon this wont be for long since the number of keyboards is finite, and the number of vintage keyboard fans is growing!!!

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I think you got a bargain if you got a J4 for £300 fella. Well done.

They have never been that cheap for over a decade. Always over £750 from my memory of the market. But sure, you could be lucky even today. But the common price for a J4 has never been £300 to my knowledge anyway.

So what are we all saying here if all the prices are multiplying by 3. In 5 years my Juno 6 will be worth 5K too? Cool, il instantly sell it as its not worth a fraction of that and ill take the family on a world cruise



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JP4's were regularly available for just a few hundred quid until fairly recently......Also, I'm not saying your Juno will be worth £5k anytime soon but it has probably tripled in price over the last 5-10 years which is my point........

A few years ago you could pick a Juno 6 up for about £100 now they are £400 ish.......

I think the growth will tail off but if your Juno 6 is ever worth £5000 a Jupiter 8 will be £50000! (It's called inflation - a pint will probably be £10, minimum wage £25/hour and a first time buyer will be buying a terraced house in Liverpool for £500K!!!!).

We can bleat all we like but the price gap between a Juno 6 and a Jupiter 8 is about the same as it ever was. Crazy? Once upon a time a Juno 6 was £100 and a Jp8 was £1000 - a Juno was 10% of the Price of a jupiter. Now a Juno is £400 and a Jupiter is say £4000 - still 10%. If the Jupiter goes for £5000 the Juno is still 8% of the price...........

The numbers may have changed but the relative value is still the same - more or less!

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Yea I remember JP4's beeing that cheap too.. 101's, 106's, JP-8's etc allthough cheaper back then were always sort of "cool" cult instruments..

JP-4's, Korg Mini700's, SH-1000's, JX-3P's were NOT and you could get them for peanuts...not any more

Im not so sure mate. Granted I may have been wrong and Jupiter 4s may have once gone for £300 in the last decade, I honestly thought they went for that in the early 90s and have slightly risen each year.

What I know for a fact though as I had £1500 to spend two years ago and as such thoroughly researched what I could get. (Theres a thread on here somewhere.)

The synths I was interested for the cash in came down to the Alesis Andromeda or a Jupiter 8. I distinctly remember I could have had either for the £1500. Jupiter 4's were around £1250 then but this wasn't worth it when compared to the J8 as im sure everyone would agree as much as I am a Jupiter 4 worshiper.

If what were saying here is the Jupiter 8 suddenly caught up to the other synths inflations such as the J4 etc overnight then yes.
But in the last two years the Jupiter 4 and many others like it haven't budged much where as the Jupiter 8 has literally rocketed by £3500 in two years.

Thats a phenomenal increase in a very short space of time and to my knowledge the only time a synth has increased by such a percentage in such a time period.

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If I was going to lay down the nonsense prices for some wheezing old synth being talked about here, I'd be looking at this for the same kind of price with some change to spare...



Serious, speaker melting synth!! Should carry a health warning! Brand new with warranty, etc.. And sounds fabber than fab!

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Baffles me when people say threads are dull yet take the time to reply.

If a few of us like talking about vintage synth prices in the vintage synth sub forum I don't see a problem with that. Where else are we meant to talk about such stuff? The PC forum? If you dont like it just dont reply. You dont have to reply on every single topic you know.

Also judging by how slow this sub forum has slowed down too IE 4 new posts a month we need to keep this populated of people will start dropping like flys.

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If you find this forum to slow Kola you could go here too..
http://www.vintagesynth.com/forum/

Thing is most of them people seem to just talk about collecting gear and never make any music lol

I prefer SOS though...slow as it might be the people are ace

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Baffles me when people say threads are dull yet take the time to reply.

If a few of us like talking about vintage synth prices in the vintage synth sub forum I don't see a problem with that. Where else are we meant to talk about such stuff? The PC forum? If you dont like it just dont reply. You dont have to reply on every single topic you know.

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It started off Ok ... I liked the SH101 versus LP angle - it was just all the discussion of pricing (that's been done to death) that had me nodding off.

I rudely interjected with my comment in an attempt to spice things up ... and it worked!

Oh no ... I think I might be a troll ... how embarrassing, what will the neighbours say?

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VJ - I much prefer SOS too. I just find there are less keyboard warriors and immature people on here. The net is riddled with them.. You Tube being the worsted by far.

Sure we have words time to time like above but on the whole I think id get on with most people from here in real life.

Jim - Well I still haven't got over the price hike in Jupiter 8s and doubt I will for a while. I wasn't talking about Analogue Gear I was taking about £3500 on a J8 in 2 years. I think this is exceptional. Obviously I am in the distinct minority.

It also saddens me to think I will never be able to justify owning one of these now.

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You surely have more than 500 posts???

I must have spoken to you 499 times alone!

Are you sure you haven't been doc'd

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bloody hell - I have over 1000!! Keeping in mind I got locked out of my old account so this one only dates back so far.

Sorry fellas but I just gotta get a life

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And by your own admission, you don't appear to be interested in buying either of these synths? "Just theorising". So that does make it somewhat pointless, and pointless to some is rather dull I guess.

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Any reason why?

Are you a moderator or something? Sorry I have missed that if you are. But otherwise until a moderator tells me where to post certain things I am not doing anything wrong.

I can honestly not see where you have ever contributed to any of my threads in a positive manor. Ofter you snipe and don't contribute anything but love to score points of people, me especially. Keyboard warrior by any chance? Or are you actually like this face to face?



This is odiously a popular feeling that my threads are dull and people don't want me around here I will go elsewhere.

I will be sorry to have to do this after being on here for around 10 years but no hard feelings if this is the case.

Anyone who would like to keep in touch would be able too via PM and I will pass on my Email addy so this is not necessarily a problem.

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Paul I have noticed you to be very rude in many of my forum posts on here.

Any reason why?

Are you a moderator or something? Sorry I have missed that if you are. But otherwise until a moderator tells me where to post certain things I am not doing anything wrong.

I can honestly not see where you have ever contributed to any of my threads in a positive manor. Ofter you snipe and don't contribute anything but love to score points of people, me especially. Keyboard warrior by any chance? Or are you actually like this face to face?



This is odiously a popular feeling that my threads are dull and people don't want me around here I will go elsewhere.

I will be sorry to have to do this after being on here for around 10 years but no hard feelings if this is the case.

Anyone who would like to keep in touch would be able too via PM and I will pass on my Email addy so this is not necessarily a problem.

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An Eagle for an Emperor, A Kestrel for a Knave.

If anyone finds a thread boring or irrelevant then don't read it or post in it.

Whether the discussions are about the dimensions of a909 pot or current prices of synths, this is what this forum is for. And if sometimes the odd synth debate gets posted in the vintage forum or vice versa then drop me a note and I will move it. It doesn't need a debate.

Kola, you ain't going anywhere m8.

So, let's get back on the subject and have a laugh in the process.

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Samplecraze
Stretch That Note

I agree with Elf - we should be able to post whatever we want so long as it's not offensive and 'broadly' on topic! If it's banal/boring/irrelevant etc etc then there is no need to start slagging it off- just pass the post by..........

I for one would be sorry to see you go. I'd also be sorry to see Paul stop contributing but would urge him to be a little more indulgent and less caustic!

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Jonny

Oh get over yourselves! It was only some gentle teasing amongst friends. No? Also the topic went very off-topic. From LP or SH101 to - yet again - the rising cost of vintage synths. So really at the end of the day that was my point - fairly interesting thread teetering dangerously on the edge of tedium and repetition. There is something to be said for keeping a valuable resource like this forum relevant and pithy. After all this isn't nor is there (for good reason) an off-topic sub-forum here.

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... although it was never my intention to make anyone feel unwelcome. You know full well Kola you'd be missed if you weren't around!

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Original artwork and unique devices inspired by vintage technology http://www.thisisobsolete.com