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Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
      #903338 - 24/03/11 11:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE309uauyHg&feature=player_embedded

Will it be as exciting (yawn) as the Korg Kronos?

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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: jellyjim]
      #903339 - 24/03/11 11:29 AM
I know what it is... It will be a disaster sales wise for Roland.

Think along the lines of the Juno-D and Di and cross them with a V-Synth and tag the name of Jupiter on it.


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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: jellyjim]
      #903340 - 24/03/11 11:29 AM
I love the clever original marketing video that's been totally ripped from the Kronos hahah

I'm guessing Roland VariOs mk2 hahahah oh and throw in some old names to sell.. Roland planet Jupiter via 303 Juno


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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: jellyjim]
      #903346 - 24/03/11 11:38 AM
y'all can laugh but I know for a fact through my connections at Roland that this synthesizer will be amazing. Completely analogue with physical control over almost all parameters. It has a an old school sequencer, and arp features. It comes equipped with MIDI, obviously, but also control voltage and DIN-sync! Roland have begun to understand that their brand appeal lies in its heyday. They are trying to harness that.(but not in the Juno D kind of way).

As for the look, the early shots I've seen appear to indicate a full metal chassis with cherry wood side panels. The old Roland colour schemes of yesteryear are hinted at. It looks very much like a Jupiter 8 in size and style.

I've been told it will rrp at around £1700 and it will be followed by a rack version for £1200.

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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: jellyjim]
      #903347 - 24/03/11 11:38 AM
sike.

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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: ken long]
      #903355 - 24/03/11 11:53 AM

Are you for real??? I really hope so!!!

Overly excited since reading this:) Any idea on when more info will be available and possible sound/video demos?

Edited by Steve Morley (24/03/11 11:54 AM)


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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: ken long]
      #903358 - 24/03/11 11:59 AM
Quote ken long:

y'all can laugh but I know for a fact through my connections at Roland that this synthesizer will be amazing. Completely analogue with physical control over almost all parameters. It has a an old school sequencer, and arp features. It comes equipped with MIDI, obviously, but also control voltage and DIN-sync! Roland have begun to understand that their brand appeal lies in its heyday. They are trying to harness that.(but not in the Juno D kind of way).

As for the look, the early shots I've seen appear to indicate a full metal chassis with cherry wood side panels. The old Roland colour schemes of yesteryear are hinted at. It looks very much like a Jupiter 8 in size and style.

I've been told it will rrp at around £1700 and it will be followed by a rack version for £1200.




JUPITER-80


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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: Steve Morley]
      #903361 - 24/03/11 12:01 PM
Quote Steve Morley:


Are you for real??? I really hope so!!!

Overly excited since reading this:) Any idea on when more info will be available and possible sound/video demos?




Quote ken long:


sike







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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: jellyjim]
      #903365 - 24/03/11 12:08 PM
You're a very bad man Ken.

[pedant]I think it's "psyche" isn't it rather than "sike". As in "I psyched you out."[/pedant]

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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: jellyjim]
      #903367 - 24/03/11 12:12 PM
Quote jellyjim:

You're a very bad man Ken.

[pedant]I think it's "psyche" isn't it rather than "sike". As in "I psyched you out."[/pedant]




Sorry for that! Couldn't resist.

Sike and Psyche are interchangeable.

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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: ken long]
      #903377 - 24/03/11 12:37 PM
Quote ken long:

y'all can laugh but I know for a fact through my connections at Roland that this synthesizer will be amazing. Completely analogue with physical control over almost all parameters. It has a an old school sequencer, and arp features. It comes equipped with MIDI, obviously, but also control voltage and DIN-sync! Roland have begun to understand that their brand appeal lies in its heyday. They are trying to harness that.(but not in the Juno D kind of way).

As for the look, the early shots I've seen appear to indicate a full metal chassis with cherry wood side panels. The old Roland colour schemes of yesteryear are hinted at. It looks very much like a Jupiter 8 in size and style.

I've been told it will rrp at around £1700 and it will be followed by a rack version for £1200.




One can only hope.. the only thing to have come out of the Roland labs in the last 10-15 years is disappointment



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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: ken long]
      #903388 - 24/03/11 01:06 PM
Quote ken long:


I've been told it will rrp at around £1700 and it will be followed by a rack version for £1200.




Wrong. Try again...


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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: Kwaidan]
      #903390 - 24/03/11 01:08 PM
Quote Kwaidan:


Think along the lines of the Juno-D and Di and cross them with a V-Synth and tag the name of Jupiter on it.




Close, but a bit negative.


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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: Chevytraveller]
      #903391 - 24/03/11 01:09 PM
Quote Chevytraveller:


the only thing to have come out of the Roland labs in the last 10-15 years is disappointment








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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: jellyjim]
      #903398 - 24/03/11 01:18 PM
Hmm Keeno leads us to believe he is in the know LOL


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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: jellyjim]
      #903401 - 24/03/11 01:26 PM
Sounds more like an enthusiastic Roland rep or employee lol

To be honest I couldn't give a damn what they come out with although I can't wait and see how it will fail this time.
It won't make me a better musician or make me write better music, I'm skint and I have pretty much everything I need


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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: Kwaidan]
      #903405 - 24/03/11 01:31 PM
Quote Kwaidan:

I know what it is... It will be a disaster sales wise for Roland.

Think along the lines of the Juno-D and Di and cross them with a V-Synth and tag the name of Jupiter on it.




Slag it off before you've even heard it: that's what this industry really needs, attitudes like this.


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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: Chevytraveller]
      #903406 - 24/03/11 01:32 PM
Quote Chevytraveller:

One can only hope.. the only thing to have come out of the Roland labs in the last 10-15 years is disappointment






Utter nonsense.


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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: TheChorltonWheelie]
      #903416 - 24/03/11 01:50 PM
Quote TheChorltonWheelie:

Quote Kwaidan:

I know what it is... It will be a disaster sales wise for Roland.

Think along the lines of the Juno-D and Di and cross them with a V-Synth and tag the name of Jupiter on it.




Slag it off before you've even heard it: that's what this industry really needs, attitudes like this.




No it doesn't but then again it doesn't really need the Korg Kronos either but they still made it. I think Kwaidan is saying "come on Roland, let's innovate not repackage." And if he isn't I certainly am!

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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: jellyjim]
      #903417 - 24/03/11 01:50 PM
Unfortunately I have to agree that Roland which was once my ultimate favourite gear makers these days just turns out synths that seem to be aimed at the kiddy market rather than the pro or semi pro musicians/producer. It's not like they don't know how to do it! So a real analog synth with some balls would be a welcome change. And if it resembles a fraction of the sound produced by their classics would be a winner.

Don't get me wrong the V synth is an exception in my book but things like the Juno D and Gaia are not great at all. There is a good reason why people are still willing to part with huge amounts of cash for the old Roland gear. Hype alone would have worn off by now!

Edited by Steve Morley (24/03/11 01:52 PM)


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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: jellyjim]
      #903419 - 24/03/11 01:54 PM
Metamorphosis of a Legend - with a title like that i was expecting a little more info. Or ANY info for that matter. What a waste of someones time.
Come on Roland - more info please.

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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: TheChorltonWheelie]
      #903423 - 24/03/11 02:00 PM
Quote TheChorltonWheelie:

Quote Chevytraveller:

One can only hope.. the only thing to have come out of the Roland labs in the last 10-15 years is disappointment






Utter nonsense.




Really?.. so what have I missed since the JP80X0?.. more repackaged naff sounding romplers like the nu-Junos..

nothing much worthy of the Roland badge IMO

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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: jellyjim]
      #903425 - 24/03/11 02:01 PM
I just said the name of the thing it's going to be called the Jupiter-80.


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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: Kwaidan]
      #903430 - 24/03/11 02:07 PM
Quote Kwaidan:

I just said the name of the thing it's going to be called the Jupiter-80.



I see! Thanks Kwaidan. I thought you were 'taking the michael'.

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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: jellyjim]
      #903434 - 24/03/11 02:15 PM
Well with a name like Jupiter-80 it better be a monster synth! If not I fear they will have lost all credibility ha ha ha


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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: Steve Morley]
      #903437 - 24/03/11 02:18 PM
Quote Steve Morley:

Unfortunately I have to agree that Roland which was once my ultimate favourite gear makers these days just turns out synths that seem to be aimed at the kiddy market rather than the pro or semi pro musicians/producer. ...
There is a good reason why people are still willing to part with huge amounts of cash for the old Roland gear. Hype alone would have worn off by now!




I general I agree. Sadly. I haven't bought a new Roland device for at least 10 years. They don't listen to pro's IMO.


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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: vinyl_junkie]
      #903442 - 24/03/11 02:27 PM
Quote vinyl_junkie:

Sounds more like an enthusiastic Roland rep or employee lol





Haha, neither I'm afraid!


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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: Stan]
      #903444 - 24/03/11 02:29 PM
Quote Stan:

Metamorphosis of a Legend - with a title like that i was expecting a little more info. Or ANY info for that matter. What a waste of someones time.
Come on Roland - more info please.




There is no public info yet, it hasn't been announced. April 6th I believe. Patience...


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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: keeno]
      #903445 - 24/03/11 02:30 PM
One mystery is enough for any thread.
Maybe someone could post some pics or specs of this new beast!

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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: jellyjim]
      #903893 - 26/03/11 03:08 PM
Judging the teaser and whar I've seen on other forums it is likely agoing to be a V big dissapointment. Going on the last few synths they did it is unlikely that all of a sudden they have seen the light and make a REAL synth. A bit like Novation really who just can't get their act together and make a follow up to the Supernova. All you get these days are those cheap nasty plastic 'virtual' bits that just don't cut it. What is wrong with a metal casing, lots of controls, plenty of polyphony, multi timbral synths with plenty of audio outputs?? LOL


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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: jellyjim]
      #905501 - 01/04/11 07:41 PM
This is what's coming from Roland... Another repackaged V-Synth/Fantom-esque 76-note live performance keyboard.



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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: Kwaidan]
      #905503 - 01/04/11 07:51 PM
Quote Kwaidan:

This is what's coming from Roland... Another repackaged V-Synth/Fantom-esque 76-note live performance keyboard.






Oh ...

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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: Kwaidan]
      #905506 - 01/04/11 08:02 PM
Quote Kwaidan:

This is what's coming from Roland... Another repackaged V-Synth/Fantom-esque 76-note live performance keyboard.






"The upright bass was the most realistic I've ever heard."



I find the styling almost offensive...


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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: jellyjim]
      #905509 - 01/04/11 08:06 PM
RRP?

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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: jellyjim]
      #905510 - 01/04/11 08:13 PM
who cares :-(

I don't expect them to risk the business, but hey guys - a little imagination from the company who produced the D50, please

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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: ken long]
      #905511 - 01/04/11 08:33 PM
Quote ken long:

RRP?




$3000 - $4000


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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: jellyjim]
      #905534 - 02/04/11 01:07 AM
Is this a piss-take? Sorry I'm a bit slow...

Pretty rainbow colours if it's real. I was under the impression that Roland couldn't use the Jupiter name after the 80's because Sanyo copyrighted all the planet names - which is why the JP8000 wasn't a Jupe ...

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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: Chevytraveller]
      #905537 - 02/04/11 06:25 AM
Quote Chevytraveller:



One can only hope.. the only thing to have come out of the Roland labs in the last 10-15 years is disappointment







no hope.. yet more disappointment rains from the anus of Roland's R&D labs

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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: Chevytraveller]
      #905558 - 02/04/11 11:41 AM
Roland is a great innovative firm that has created musical instruments that have shaped some pop music styles in the last 30 years (including jazz guitar, their "JC- Jazz Chorus" amps!).

On the other hand they are masters of repackaging and re-branding their products (Roland into Boss into Edirol) with little creative efforts..

BUT, I think people have been too hard on their latest keyboard effort BEFORE anyone has even heard it or tried it. The scant review reported here is actually, and potentially, very exiting: if they have found a 'clever' way to make an emulation of a real instrument interact with 'feelings' with the performer, the better! I can't wait to hear/play it! It could be 'revolutionary' indeed!

The saddest truth is that many people on these kind of blogs are mere 'art collectors' and nostalgics firmly routed to their past (youth). Do you really, really think that the world needs another 'true' analogue synth to make 'real' electronic music? What would you expect it to do produce: fatter pads? More souring lead lines? Deeper booming 808 BDs? Crucially, why? To re-record 'The final countdown' or 'Jump' more faithfully? Keith Emersons' Mimimoog virtuoso meanderings?

This tiny minority of nostalgics, can't they use some of the many boutique modular mono synths out there? Maybe a great software emulation, or the Nord Lead? ENOUGH of cheese analogue synths, please!
Luckily Roland appears to share this view! Innovation please, and a better and sophisticated interaction with the vast-improved quality sounds available nowadays seems to be a good step forward? Or not?



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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland? new [Re: jellyjim]
      #905563 - 02/04/11 12:37 PM
When I first saw the pic, for a moment I thought that they'd re-styled and updated the V-Synth. Now _that_ would have been a cool as funk thing to do - and I would have paid for it too (I kinda have a soft spot for it).

But a ROMpler based Jupiter?

Do me a lemon!!

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