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Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
#903338 - 24/03/11 11:20 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xE309uauyHg&feature=player_embedded
Will it be as exciting (yawn) as the Korg Kronos?
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
[Re: jellyjim]
#903339 - 24/03/11 11:29 AM
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I know what it is... It will be a disaster sales wise for Roland.
Think along
the lines of the Juno-D and Di and cross them with a V-Synth and tag the name of Jupiter
on it.
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
[Re: jellyjim]
#903340 - 24/03/11 11:29 AM
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I love the clever original marketing video that's been totally ripped from the Kronos
hahah
I'm guessing Roland VariOs mk2 hahahah oh and throw in some old names to
sell.. Roland planet Jupiter via 303 Juno
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
[Re: jellyjim]
#903346 - 24/03/11 11:38 AM
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y'all can laugh but I know for a fact through my connections at Roland that this
synthesizer will be amazing. Completely analogue with physical control over almost all
parameters. It has a an old school sequencer, and arp features. It comes equipped with
MIDI, obviously, but also control voltage and DIN-sync! Roland have begun to understand
that their brand appeal lies in its heyday. They are trying to harness that.(but not in
the Juno D kind of way).
As for the look, the early shots I've seen appear to
indicate a full metal chassis with cherry wood side panels. The old Roland colour schemes
of yesteryear are hinted at. It looks very much like a Jupiter 8 in size and style.
I've been told it will rrp at around £1700 and it will be followed by a rack
version for £1200.
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
[Re: jellyjim]
#903347 - 24/03/11 11:38 AM
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sike.
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
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#903355 - 24/03/11 11:53 AM
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Are you for real??? I really hope so!!!
Overly excited since reading
this:) Any idea on when more info will be available and possible sound/video demos?
Edited by Steve Morley (24/03/11 11:54 AM)
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
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#903358 - 24/03/11 11:59 AM
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Quote ken long:
y'all can laugh
but I know for a fact through my connections at Roland that this synthesizer will be
amazing. Completely analogue with physical control over almost all parameters. It has a
an old school sequencer, and arp features. It comes equipped with MIDI, obviously, but
also control voltage and DIN-sync! Roland have begun to understand that their brand
appeal lies in its heyday. They are trying to harness that.(but not in the Juno D kind of
way).
As for the look, the early shots I've seen appear to indicate a full
metal chassis with cherry wood side panels. The old Roland colour schemes of yesteryear
are hinted at. It looks very much like a Jupiter 8 in size and style.
I've
been told it will rrp at around £1700 and it will be followed by a rack version for
£1200.
JUPITER-80
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
[Re: Steve Morley]
#903361 - 24/03/11 12:01 PM
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Quote Steve Morley:
Are you
for real??? I really hope so!!!
Overly excited since reading this:) Any idea on
when more info will be available and possible sound/video demos?
Quote ken long:
sike
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
[Re: jellyjim]
#903365 - 24/03/11 12:08 PM
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You're a very bad man Ken. [pedant]I think it's "psyche" isn't it rather than
"sike". As in "I psyched you out."[/pedant]
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
[Re: jellyjim]
#903367 - 24/03/11 12:12 PM
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Quote jellyjim:
You're a very bad
man Ken.
[pedant]I think it's "psyche" isn't it rather than "sike". As in "I
psyched you out."[/pedant]
Sorry for that! Couldn't resist. 
Sike and Psyche are interchangeable.
HTH.
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
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#903377 - 24/03/11 12:37 PM
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Quote ken long:
y'all can laugh
but I know for a fact through my connections at Roland that this synthesizer will be
amazing. Completely analogue with physical control over almost all parameters. It has a
an old school sequencer, and arp features. It comes equipped with MIDI, obviously, but
also control voltage and DIN-sync! Roland have begun to understand that their brand
appeal lies in its heyday. They are trying to harness that.(but not in the Juno D kind of
way).
As for the look, the early shots I've seen appear to indicate a full
metal chassis with cherry wood side panels. The old Roland colour schemes of yesteryear
are hinted at. It looks very much like a Jupiter 8 in size and style.
I've
been told it will rrp at around £1700 and it will be followed by a rack version for
£1200.
One can only hope..
the only thing to have come out of the Roland labs in the last 10-15 years is
disappointment
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
[Re: ken long]
#903388 - 24/03/11 01:06 PM
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Quote ken long:
I've been
told it will rrp at around £1700 and it will be followed by a rack version for £1200.
Wrong. Try again...
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
[Re: Kwaidan]
#903390 - 24/03/11 01:08 PM
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Quote Kwaidan:
Think along
the lines of the Juno-D and Di and cross them with a V-Synth and tag the name of Jupiter
on it.
Close, but a bit
negative.
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
[Re: Chevytraveller]
#903391 - 24/03/11 01:09 PM
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Quote Chevytraveller:
the
only thing to have come out of the Roland labs in the last 10-15 years is disappointment
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
[Re: jellyjim]
#903398 - 24/03/11 01:18 PM
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Hmm Keeno leads us to believe he is in the know LOL
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
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#903401 - 24/03/11 01:26 PM
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Sounds more like an enthusiastic Roland rep or employee lol
To be honest I
couldn't give a damn what they come out with although I can't wait and see how it will
fail this time.
It won't make me a better musician or make me write better music,
I'm skint and I have pretty much everything I need
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
[Re: Kwaidan]
#903405 - 24/03/11 01:31 PM
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Quote Kwaidan:
I know what it
is... It will be a disaster sales wise for Roland.
Think along the lines of
the Juno-D and Di and cross them with a V-Synth and tag the name of Jupiter on it.
Slag it off before you've even
heard it: that's what this industry really needs, attitudes like this.
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
[Re: Chevytraveller]
#903406 - 24/03/11 01:32 PM
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Quote Chevytraveller:
One can
only hope.. the only thing to have come out of the Roland labs in the last 10-15 years is
disappointment
Utter nonsense.
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Quote TheChorltonWheelie:
Quote Kwaidan:
I know what it
is... It will be a disaster sales wise for Roland.
Think along the lines of
the Juno-D and Di and cross them with a V-Synth and tag the name of Jupiter on it.
Slag it off before you've even
heard it: that's what this industry really needs, attitudes like this.
No it doesn't but then again it doesn't
really need the Korg Kronos either but they still made it. I think Kwaidan is saying "come
on Roland, let's innovate not repackage." And if he isn't I certainly am!
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
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#903417 - 24/03/11 01:50 PM
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Unfortunately I have to agree that Roland which was once my ultimate favourite gear makers
these days just turns out synths that seem to be aimed at the kiddy market rather than the
pro or semi pro musicians/producer. It's not like they don't know how to do it! So a real
analog synth with some balls would be a welcome change. And if it resembles a fraction of
the sound produced by their classics would be a winner.
Don't get me wrong
the V synth is an exception in my book but things like the Juno D and Gaia are not great
at all. There is a good reason why people are still willing to part with huge amounts of
cash for the old Roland gear. Hype alone would have worn off by now!
Edited by Steve Morley (24/03/11 01:52 PM)
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
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#903419 - 24/03/11 01:54 PM
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Metamorphosis of a Legend - with a title like that i was expecting a little more info. Or
ANY info for that matter. What a waste of someones time. Come on Roland - more info
please.
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Quote TheChorltonWheelie:
Quote Chevytraveller:
One can
only hope.. the only thing to have come out of the Roland labs in the last 10-15 years is
disappointment
Utter nonsense.
Really?.. so what have I missed since the
JP80X0?.. more repackaged naff sounding romplers like the nu-Junos..
nothing
much worthy of the Roland badge IMO
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
[Re: jellyjim]
#903425 - 24/03/11 02:01 PM
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I just said the name of the thing it's going to be called the Jupiter-80.
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
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#903430 - 24/03/11 02:07 PM
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Quote Kwaidan:
I just said the
name of the thing it's going to be called the Jupiter-80.
I see! Thanks Kwaidan. I thought you were 'taking
the michael'.
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
[Re: jellyjim]
#903434 - 24/03/11 02:15 PM
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Well with a name like Jupiter-80 it better be a monster synth! If not I fear they will
have lost all credibility ha ha ha
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
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#903437 - 24/03/11 02:18 PM
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Quote Steve Morley:
Unfortunately
I have to agree that Roland which was once my ultimate favourite gear makers these days
just turns out synths that seem to be aimed at the kiddy market rather than the pro or
semi pro musicians/producer. ...
There is a good reason why people are still willing
to part with huge amounts of cash for the old Roland gear. Hype alone would have worn off
by now!
I general I agree.
Sadly. I haven't bought a new Roland device for at least 10 years. They don't listen to
pro's IMO.
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
[Re: vinyl_junkie]
#903442 - 24/03/11 02:27 PM
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Quote vinyl_junkie:
Sounds more
like an enthusiastic Roland rep or employee lol
Haha, neither I'm afraid!
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
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#903444 - 24/03/11 02:29 PM
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Quote Stan:
Metamorphosis of a
Legend - with a title like that i was expecting a little more info. Or ANY info for that
matter. What a waste of someones time. Come on Roland - more info please.
There is no public info yet, it hasn't
been announced. April 6th I believe. Patience...
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
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#903445 - 24/03/11 02:30 PM
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One mystery is enough for any thread. Maybe someone could post some pics or specs of
this new beast!
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
[Re: jellyjim]
#903893 - 26/03/11 03:08 PM
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Judging the teaser and whar I've seen on other forums it is likely agoing to be a V big
dissapointment. Going on the last few synths they did it is unlikely that all of a sudden
they have seen the light and make a REAL synth. A bit like Novation really who just can't
get their act together and make a follow up to the Supernova. All you get these days are
those cheap nasty plastic 'virtual' bits that just don't cut it. What is wrong with a
metal casing, lots of controls, plenty of polyphony, multi timbral synths with plenty of
audio outputs?? LOL
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
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#905501 - 01/04/11 07:41 PM
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This is what's coming from Roland... Another repackaged V-Synth/Fantom-esque 76-note live
performance keyboard.
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
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#905503 - 01/04/11 07:51 PM
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Quote Kwaidan:
This is what's
coming from Roland... Another repackaged V-Synth/Fantom-esque 76-note live performance
keyboard.
Oh ...
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
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#905506 - 01/04/11 08:02 PM
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Quote Kwaidan:
This is what's
coming from Roland... Another repackaged V-Synth/Fantom-esque 76-note live performance
keyboard.
"The upright bass was the most realistic
I've ever heard."
I find the styling almost offensive...
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
[Re: jellyjim]
#905509 - 01/04/11 08:06 PM
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RRP?
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
[Re: jellyjim]
#905510 - 01/04/11 08:13 PM
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who cares :-( I don't expect them to risk the business, but hey guys - a little
imagination from the company who produced the D50, please
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
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#905511 - 01/04/11 08:33 PM
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Quote ken long:
RRP?
$3000 - $4000
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
[Re: jellyjim]
#905534 - 02/04/11 01:07 AM
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Is this a piss-take? Sorry I'm a bit slow... Pretty rainbow colours if it's
real. I was under the impression that Roland couldn't use the Jupiter name after the 80's
because Sanyo copyrighted all the planet names - which is why the JP8000 wasn't a Jupe
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
[Re: Chevytraveller]
#905537 - 02/04/11 06:25 AM
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Quote Chevytraveller:
One can only hope.. the only thing to have come out of the Roland labs in the last 10-15
years is disappointment
no hope.. yet more
disappointment rains from the anus of Roland's R&D labs
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
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#905558 - 02/04/11 11:41 AM
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Roland is a great innovative firm that has created musical instruments that have shaped
some pop music styles in the last 30 years (including jazz guitar, their "JC- Jazz Chorus"
amps!). On the other hand they are masters of repackaging and re-branding their
products (Roland into Boss into Edirol) with little creative efforts.. BUT, I
think people have been too hard on their latest keyboard effort BEFORE anyone has even
heard it or tried it. The scant review reported here is actually, and potentially, very
exiting: if they have found a 'clever' way to make an emulation of a real instrument
interact with 'feelings' with the performer, the better! I can't wait to hear/play it! It
could be 'revolutionary' indeed! The saddest truth is that many people on these
kind of blogs are mere 'art collectors' and nostalgics firmly routed to their past
(youth). Do you really, really think that the world needs another 'true' analogue synth to
make 'real' electronic music? What would you expect it to do produce: fatter pads? More
souring lead lines? Deeper booming 808 BDs? Crucially, why? To re-record 'The final
countdown' or 'Jump' more faithfully? Keith Emersons' Mimimoog virtuoso meanderings? This tiny minority of nostalgics, can't they use some of the many boutique modular
mono synths out there? Maybe a great software emulation, or the Nord Lead? ENOUGH of
cheese analogue synths, please! Luckily Roland appears to share this view!
Innovation please, and a better and sophisticated interaction with the vast-improved
quality sounds available nowadays seems to be a good step forward? Or not?
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Re: Ooh! What's coming from Roland?
[Re: jellyjim]
#905563 - 02/04/11 12:37 PM
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When I first saw the pic, for a moment I thought that they'd re-styled and updated the
V-Synth. Now _that_ would have been a cool as funk thing to do - and I would have paid for
it too (I kinda have a soft spot for it).
But a ROMpler based Jupiter?
Do me a lemon!!
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