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alexis



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Just out of intersest: What program are people here using to stretch pitch and time on vox? new
      #991274 - 04/06/12 09:02 PM
Thanks!

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Re: Just out of intersest: What program are people here using to stretch pitch and time on vox? new [Re: alexis]
      #991278 - 04/06/12 09:15 PM
Cubase's own VariAudio does 90% of what I need these days. The seamless integration is a huge winner, making adjustments and re-work very simple. Thankfully it also sounds pretty good too.

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Re: Just out of intersest: What program are people here using to stretch pitch and time on vox? new [Re: The Elf]
      #991298 - 04/06/12 11:31 PM
Logic flex or Melodyne, depending on the needs of the task.


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alexis



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Re: Just out of intersest: What program are people here using to stretch pitch and time on vox? new [Re: The Elf]
      #991309 - 05/06/12 04:30 AM
Quote The Elf:

Cubase's own VariAudio does 90% of what I need these days. The seamless integration is a huge winner, making adjustments and re-work very simple. Thankfully it also sounds pretty good too.




Thanks for that, The Elf!

What kind of situations do you find challenge VariAudio consistently? Certain kinds of singing styles (raspy, or swooping into the notes), or maybe something else like how it handles multiple parts?

The not having formant correction - I'd think that'd be challenging, but maybe not?

Thanks for any further awesome insights!

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Re: Just out of intersest: What program are people here using to stretch pitch and time on vox? [Re: alexis]
      #991321 - 05/06/12 10:00 AM
Formant correction is unimportant for slight changes (and if you're looking for more than slight changes then VariAudio is maybe not the tool for the job).

VariAudio can sometimes create a garbled sound on certain notes. I've not discovered a consistent pattern to the problem. It's just something you have to be aware of - editing the pitch detection bars usually cures it. The longer you spend editing the pitch detection before applying any correction, the better the results are. Often I'll reduce the corrected portion to a fraction of the overall note length and that's enough to sound corrected without sounding obviously processed. Removing detection from consonants and breaths is not always necessary, but if you spend the time doing it you're more likely to get something you like at the end.

Multiple parts are fine. If the going gets tough for your computer then you can always flatten the processing.

And yes, correct only that which needs correcting.

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Re: Just out of intersest: What program are people here using to stretch pitch and time on vox? new [Re: alexis]
      #991323 - 05/06/12 10:07 AM
I use Melodyne

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Re: Just out of intersest: What program are people here using to stretch pitch and time on vox? new [Re: Bossman]
      #991707 - 06/06/12 10:51 PM
Serato Pitch n Time

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Re: Just out of intersest: What program are people here using to stretch pitch and time on vox? new [Re: desmond]
      #991792 - 07/06/12 01:38 PM
Quote desmond:

Logic flex or Melodyne, depending on the needs of the task.




+1 The Melodyne plug with DNA( Direct Note Access ) allows you to get inside of chords, great for adapting Keyboard, and horn phrases.



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Re: Just out of intersest: What program are people here using to stretch pitch and time on vox? new [Re: alexis]
      #991797 - 07/06/12 02:01 PM
Melodyne Editor (with DNA) for pitch duties, Logic's Flex function for timing issues (it's a little more user-friendly than Melodyne for this).

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Re: Just out of intersest: What program are people here using to stretch pitch and time on vox? new [Re: The Elf]
      #991873 - 07/06/12 10:49 PM
Quote The Elf:

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VariAudio can sometimes create a garbled sound on certain notes. I've not discovered a consistent pattern to the problem. It's just something you have to be aware of - editing the pitch detection bars usually cures it. The longer you spend editing the pitch detection before applying any correction, the better the results are. Often I'll reduce the corrected portion to a fraction of the overall note length and that's enough to sound corrected without sounding obviously processed. Removing detection from consonants and breaths is not always necessary, but if you spend the time doing it you're more likely to get something you like at the end.

Multiple parts are fine. If the going gets tough for your computer then you can always flatten the processing.

And yes, correct only that which needs correcting.




Thank you The Elf and everyone for some great and helpful answers!

Do people find that these programs have a harder time correcting raspy, sandpaper-cigarette-whiskey singers (like Ray Charles, early John Lennon, Mitch Ryder) than smooth voicers?

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