Tempus Fugit
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Word Clocks (Big Ben)
#19259 - 22/09/04 04:02 PM
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Hi everyone,
I would like some help with understanding how a good Word Clock
works such as the Big Ben from Apogee (not the physics behind it, just basics as I cant
seem to grasp it from reading there site).
I have only recently dipped my toes
into the semi-pro digital realm, although I have been recording using analogue gear with
PC/Atari for over 10 years.
I have read things like this from apogee’s
Big Ben reviews :-
“I have to say that I am ASTOUNDED at the difference
that the Big Ben makes.”
And
“There were essentially
three differences that I noticed. First, the coherency of the sound. Secondly, there was
extension at the high end frequency, and finally, the smudge in the mid-range was
diminished.
How does it do this? and could it be useful for me?
Here is a list of most of my equipment that may use a word clock to help anyone wishing
to help me out here decide its usefulness in my situation.
2x MOTU HD192 Crane Song Avocet studio controller Tascam CDRW2000 Focusrite Liquid
Channel
Other non word clocked equipment includes
3x Powercore
Firewire TL Audio Valve EQ ATC SCM20ASL Pro monitors Bittree Bantam
Patchbay Various Synths & High end plug ins Inc. Waves IR1. Mackie HUI MOTU
Midi Express
Thank you
Also I don’t understand what the
Digital inputs/Outputs are for on the Big Ben?
Whilst I’m here and you
lot are feeling helpful is there anything else that would be beneficial to add at some
point to the studio to improve the sound (within the price range of equipment I already
have). I mention this as I stumbled across a company called dangerous who claim to be able
to improve the digital signals with their summing equipment? Again way over my head.
If this has been covered then please let me know politely and if you are feeling
helpful today then please help me out.
Thanks
-------------------- Engineer from a small rock near the sun
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James Perrett
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Loc: The wilds of Hampshire
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Re: Word Clocks (Big Ben)
[Re: Tempus Fugit]
#19294 - 22/09/04 04:24 PM
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A stable word clock is important wherever you need to go from analogue to digital or vice
versa. If the clock is jittery then the waveform won't be sampled in quite the right place
which will lead to distortion. Whether an external word clock will help will
depend upon the design of your convertors. Some convertors sound better if they can act as
the master word clock with everything else slaved to them while some sound better with a
stable external clock. A central word clock generator is also useful if you
have a complex setup with multiple convertors in different boxes - your system may fall
into that category but you might also want to consider using one of your existing devices
with word clock output and a simple word clock distribution amplifier for this task. Cheers. James.
-------------------- JRP Music - Audio Mastering and Restoration.
http://www.jrpmusic.net
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Alex Harper
Joined: 27/05/04
Posts: 688
Loc: Manchester, UK
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Re: Word Clocks (Big Ben)
[Re: James Perrett]
#19384 - 22/09/04 06:22 PM
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Tempus, can I ask you something?
Are you a mad eccentric millionaire, or do you
actually find yourself requiring as much DSP power as 3 firewire powercores!!?? Thats like
using 6 of the pci versions!!
-------------------- om mani peme hung
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Tempus Fugit
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Re: Word Clocks (Big Ben)
[Re: Alex Harper]
#19397 - 22/09/04 06:36 PM
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Thanks for answering the question.
Of course i'm not a millionaire or anywhere
near it, if I was I would by racks of Avalons, Neves, Lexicons & Top TC's. It is expanding
rapidly though. If you look at their site you will notice that they are investing very
heavily into the Powercore. But I admit its a bit of a gamble!
TC also
recommended 3 for my uses, but then they would wouldnt they! All my fx and future plugins
and VST's will come from them, all I use my PC for is Nuendo, samples and the IR1
convolution reverb.
cheers
-------------------- Engineer from a small rock near the sun
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Axe L
Joined: 10/09/03
Posts: 301
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
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Re: Word Clocks (Big Ben)
[Re: Tempus Fugit]
#19539 - 22/09/04 09:11 PM
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Quote:
The sonic differences
between recordings made with the HD192 A/Ds when slaved to Big Ben's internal clock vs.
using the HD192's internal clock were simply astounding. Big Ben's clock made the overall
sound dramatically warmer (i.e., less edgy), the high end far sweeter and the spectral
balance noticeably smoother. Trust me, this is not simply the ramblings of an obsessed
engineer: Even my wife (who is not an audio person) could identify the recording made with
Big Ben's clock!
I advise you read
this, Tempus Fugit:
http://mixonline.com/products/review/audio_apogee_electronics_big/index.ht
ml
Also, Big Ben can perform digital audio format conversions for you,
hence the I/Os.
I have a feeling you won't be able to resist, so enjoy your
purchase
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Axe L
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Posts: 301
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
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Re: Word Clocks (Big Ben)
[Re: Tempus Fugit]
#19646 - 22/09/04 10:13 PM
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Tempus Fugit
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Re: Word Clocks (Big Ben)
[Re: Axe L]
#20531 - 23/09/04 05:18 PM
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Thanks I think I will have to try and extend my loan a little to give me some
available money for the Apogee as it sounds too good to not have really.  . Lets
hope I can start making some of my investment back.  Thanks for the links Axe L. Its great to have such knowledgeable people online.
-------------------- Engineer from a small rock near the sun
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