Now that this has been discontinued, what would people recommend for a weighted/semi-weighted 88 key controlled keyboard with midi controls built in as well? Its for controlling Cubase. I was also very impressed with the value of the Pro88 as well.

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Now that this has been discontinued, what would people recommend for a weighted/semi-weighted 88 key controlled keyboard with midi controls built in as well? Its for controlling Cubase. I was also very impressed with the value of the Pro88 as well.

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Action sucks on the Pro88. Try a CME controller.

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Try a CME controller.

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Good action on the "semi-weighted" CME I had - but the controller/knobs/transport implementation sucked.

One of the low end Yamaha or roland stage pianos? The Casio Privia felt nice when I tapped it in Dawsons the other month. No sound on, so can't say how it really felt, but the build quality seemed good for the price.

I'd agree the KS88 is far from perfect but the CME has mad software issues ( had one - took it back & heard of quite a few others too )

To own the best action requires a serious investment.
My old K250 had superb action, pity is was pain to use and seriously over priced !

I have a KS88 and it IS built to a price, but 99% of the time, it is acceptable.
If you are a concert pianist, then you will probably hate it.


For value for money, I don't think it can be beaten

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Now that this has been discontinued, what would people recommend for a weighted/semi-weighted 88 key controlled keyboard with midi controls built in as well? Its for controlling Cubase. I was also very impressed with the value of the Pro88 as well.

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Look for the Fatar VMK188 range - http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr05/articles/fatarvmk188.htm

They're regularly on Ebay secondhand, and if it's an extremely good weighted action you're after then it's a far better buy than any of the other keyboards mentioned in this thread. The Keystation/Pro range have truly awful actions, they're best avoided at any price.

I doubt you will beat a K250, but then I doubt you will find one !
That for me is the best action ever, even better than a normal grand piano
( if that is possible ! )

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That for me is the best action ever, even better than a normal grand piano
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A 25 year old instrument with a better action than a normal grand piano, as well as the V-Piano???? I'm sorry, I refuse to accept that on any level whatsoever as that would suggest that we have actually gone backwards with regards to piano actions. And we haven't.

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That for me is the best action ever, even better than a normal grand piano
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A 25 year old instrument with a better action than a normal grand piano, as well as the V-Piano???? I'm sorry, I refuse to accept that on any level whatsoever as that would suggest that we have actually gone backwards with regards to piano actions. And we haven't.

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The K250 had a wooden keybed supplied by Baldwin. Baldwin pianos were notably played by Igor Stravinski and John Williams. Whilst buying a K250 as a controller is not a great idea it did actually have a very good keybed and it is entirely possible that as it came from a piano manufacturer that it was as good as some pianos.

Thankyou Jupiter !

I stand by what I said.


If any of you ever get to own one, or even try one, you too will understand.....
I had mine for a few years and loved it to bits, despite being obtuse and frankly, bloody massive!

I agree with Scope on this one. I used to have a Kurzweil Midiboard. This too had a wooden keybed like the K250. Absolutely fantastic action. Weighed a ton though!!

Cost over £4000 when new.

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