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bern

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Yamaha 03d/02r vs. 01v96 for live use
#188460 - 28/09/05 10:15 AM

Hello!

I'd like to use a Yamaha Digital Mixer for live use.
There are three possibilities for me:
-03d
-02r
-01V96

The 01V96 has more DSP, better EQs and better Effects but it this really necessary for live use?? (or do you hear the difference just in the studio?)

Has anyone of you used a 03d or 02r live. They are quite cheap to get on ebay now. The user interface of the 02r is much better (faster access to to EQ), am I right? But it is much heavier and bigger. Is it useful to buy the bigger 02r just for the better user inferface?

Any recommends or idaes?

Regards,
Bernhard

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Re: Yamaha 03d/02r vs. 01v96 for live use new

[Re: bern]
#188627 - 28/09/05 02:29 PM

The 02R certainly has the better user interface, which is of particular importance for live sound. The 01V96 does sound better, and has better effects, but for live sound I very much doubt you would appreciate the difference, and the user interface would make using it hard work.

So given the choices, I'd go for the 02R, followed by the 03D and then the 01V96 -- however, I'd really question why you want a digital desk for live sound at all. The ability to use scene memories can be useful in some theatrical applications, but thre are few other advantages, and a decent analogue mixer will be cheaper, easier to use, and possibly even more reliable.

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Re: Yamaha 03d/02r vs. 01v96 for live use new

[Re: bern]
#188749 - 28/09/05 05:25 PM

I've owned three 03D and currently have one 01V. With regards to the mixers alone, I totally agree with Hugh on grounds of the LCD display alone: go for the 02R. The display on the 01V96 is too poor to use live in poor-ish lighting conditions.

The 03D has a nice display but is totally unreliable (that's why I had 3), particularly... the LCD which often fails.

However, if you decided to take a computer along to control the mixer and get a huge display, then the 01V96 would become interesting again because of the supplied Yamaha software.

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#188778 - 28/09/05 06:41 PM

A digital mixer for live use certainly suits some engineers better than others.

I used the Promix 01 live a lot, and it was great, even with the (by todays standards) crappy display/ interface. Scene memories are brilliant if you're doing lots of bands on one show. It's really neat and easy to manage when you don't have to set up and/ or trouble shoot multiple channels worth of outboard gates and comps. It's a much tidier setup when they are "virtual", which suited me! Note that it took me maybe 2 small gigs before I felt OK about using it for bigger events.

Kraftwerk always use the 02R96v2 for their gigs, even when there's a big ol' analogue mixer at the venue.

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