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Left Handed / Right Handed Playing - Experiment.
#211195 - 15/11/05 12:21 AM
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I've been playing for years now - right handed, although I'm naturally a lefty. I was
simply too impatient when I was 15 to wait and get a left handed G, so I figured I'd teach
myself the wrong way round. Was very wierd at first, but eventually my brain re-programmed
itself, and now a left hand G feels very unnatural. I've always wondered whether I would
have been better, had I learnt left handed - so I finally went out and bought a lefty
today!!
Only had 10 mins to practice tonight - picking hand feels ok, (that was
always my weakness), but fretting hand feels like it's being controlled by some drunken
force, and just wont work. Hope it wont be too long before it starts coming together, and
I can actually play something!
Then I'll have to work out what to do with all
my RH Guitars. At the very least it will be quite cool, if I can play with both hands!
Anyone else ever tried this ??
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Re: Left Handed / Right Handed Playing - Experiment.
[Re: Reds]
#211241 - 15/11/05 08:21 AM
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There's plenty of famous guitarists who are left handed, but play right handed guitars
(Mark Knopfler is one, his dad thought he would have an advantage if his stronger hand was
the fretting hand - think he might have been on to something there!). I've
attempted to play a lefty, although after 10 mins gave up and played it upside down,
although as I couldn't restring it I also had to play the strings upsidedown to (i.e.
EBGDAE). Very strange.... If you end up being able to play both, for God's
sake please don't get a Michael Angelo doubleneck thing...  Hewesy
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Re: Left Handed / Right Handed Playing - Experiment.
[Re: Hewesy]
#211251 - 15/11/05 09:27 AM
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I was thinking of getting the first quad necked guitar  or maybe a
quad neck with fretless bass on the left bottom, 12-string on the top, fretted bass on the
right bottom and 7-string guitar on the top !! Not sure what colour spandex to wear
though.....
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Re: Left Handed / Right Handed Playing - Experiment.
[Re: Reds]
#211283 - 15/11/05 11:08 AM
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I'm (for the most part, at least) right-handed but play left-handed. So far as I can tell,
I picked this up from my uncle, who was the only guitarist I knew when I was a kid. The
funny thing is though that I'm pretty sure he wasn't left-handed either, so god only knows
how it all started!
Anyway, I would strongly advise against dabbling with the
left-hand path unless you really feel you'll never be as dextrous playing right-handed as
you might be as a southpaw. Once you're fully assimilated, guitar shops will become the
music equivalent of those old Soviet supermarkets with lots of shelf space but absolutely
nothing in them. At the moment, if you fancied a new Tele, say, you could stroll into your
local Sound Control, or whatever, and try out as many as they had in stock until you found
the one that suited you. And if there was nothing you liked, you could just move on to the
next store and work your way through their stock etc.
If you're left-handed,
you're just grateful that they've got *anything* in the shop you can actually play. If
it's one of the guitar megastores, you'll usually have a choice between a brown Yamaha
Pacifica, a badly set-up Mexican Strat and, if you're really lucky, a ludicrous £1600
signature model of someone no one's ever heard of that the shop ordered in by mistake. In
the smaller independent stores, they will only have a solitary Stagg, which the sales
bloke will try and convince you is every bit as good as anything that ever came out of
Fullerton. And then they'll try to persuade you to buy a right-handed guitar and have it
converted to a lefty.
On the plus side, you'll save a fortune over the years
due to the lack of purchasing opportunities, even once you've factored in the 10 per cent
premium that most manufacturers charge for left-handed guitars...
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Re: Left Handed / Right Handed Playing - Experiment.
[Re: yorkio]
#211290 - 15/11/05 11:15 AM
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Funnily enough - this is what Turnkey's had in yesterday, for the Southpaws..
1
x Mexican Strat 1 x Mexican Tele 1 x Vintage/Custom Shop Strat Signature thing
(£1300) 1 x Epiphone SG (allegedly with some Mahogany in it somewhere) !!
You were almost spot on with your prognosis! Luckily I know a man who can make me
(excellent) custom guitars to order, should I continue my journey to the dark side... Wont
have to rely on the shops.
I went for the Mexican Tele by the way..... Setup
wasn't too bad.
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Re: Left Handed / Right Handed Playing - Experiment.
[Re: Reds]
#211300 - 15/11/05 11:43 AM
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There is currently a theory doing the rounds that modern playing is the wrong way round
anyway. The idea was that most of the technique and control for guitar was in the picking
fingers on the right hand and all the left hand had to do was fret the strings. However,
nowadays, all the right hand does is move the pick up and down a bit and the left has to
have the dexterity. ( reverse the above for lefties ) So if you are
a more 'modern' style player, then you have done exactly the right thing by being a lefty
learning to right handed. Of course, if you still play guitar properly, then
quite frankly this theory is balls.....
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Re: Left Handed / Right Handed Playing - Experiment.
[Re: Dave B]
#211321 - 15/11/05 12:05 PM
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My main problem all along, (and to this day), was the rhythm, or lack of it in my right
hand. I never got used to using a pick, so play mostly with fingers. Try brushing your
teeth with the wrong hand and you'll get the idea! I find it difficult to pick out the
right strings, when doing little fills mid strum, and could never pick that fast or
consistently. As for left hand being more dextrous on the neck - I don't know??? Pianists
have to be pretty dextrous with both hands, and I suppose if you extrapolate that to
drummers, there goes my rhythm theory too!
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Re: Left Handed / Right Handed Playing - Experiment.
[Re: Reds]
#211343 - 15/11/05 12:43 PM
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I'm a leftie (in more ways than one) but I play the 'normal' way. I do other things with
my right hand too like use a mouse, so i think the two halves of my brain are fairly
evenly balanced.
I always thought it was wrong for right handed people to pluck
with the right hand and finger the freet board with the left. Right handed people are more
dextrous with their right hand, so why confine it to holding a plectrum? They are less
dextrous with this left hand, which has got all the work to do in wizzing up and down the
fret board! So it would make sense for right handed people to hold a plectrum with their
left hand and fret board with the right.
Course, for classical guitar playing
with all the finger picking dexterity involved it makes more sense for a right hander to
pluck with the right.
Anyway, once you've learned to do it one way why on earth
bother changing round? Life's too short!
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Re: Left Handed / Right Handed Playing - Experiment.
[Re: Reds]
#211367 - 15/11/05 01:19 PM
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Quote Reds:
My main problem all
along, (and to this day), was the rhythm, or lack of it in my right hand.
Funnily enough this ties in exactly to my
own pet theory about why we use the hands we do when playing guitar. My theory runs that
the brain is far more sensitive to bad timing than it is to incorrect pitch, therefore we
use our stronger hand for rhythm and the weaker one for picking out the right note - could
all be complete bollox, but it's a theory...
>;o))
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Re: Left Handed / Right Handed Playing - Experiment.
[Re: Reds]
#211749 - 16/11/05 08:40 AM
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Yet another leftie playing the "wrong" way round. I am still frustrated by my lack
of speed and dexterity with my right hand picking, BUT I can do a bunch of really cool
stuff with my left hand that most righties can`t get near unless they are overall MUCH
better players than me - mind you that ain`t difficult,
I used to be a bassist
till I got rsi and when I switched from a pick to fingers I found the same problem - loads
of cool stuff with vibrato was easy, but fast right hand playing let me down.
My solution has been to make a career out of "tasteful" and "rhythmic" rather than
"fast", but to be honest I never have liked the shredder school of guitar.
Mind you, I would like to be able to do some of the Brett mason - albert lee - james
burton fast country picking now and then.
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Re: Left Handed / Right Handed Playing - Experiment.
[Re: Reds]
#212081 - 16/11/05 05:53 PM
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Hi, I think it is worth pointing out that their is a degree of handedness.
People are not 100% left or right but can be somewhere in between.... I am a
lefty and play lefty. There is such a dearth of choice in the lefty market that I now am
in the planning stage of building my own guitars. Warmoth will do the lefty parts at no
extra charge. For me it was never an issue right handed guitars are the most
unnatural piece of crap ever, turn them upside down and suddenly they become an
instrument... Back when I was 11 I wanted to learn to play guitar and my music
teacher at school saw me with the guitar upside down and gave me a bollocking for "messing
around". After I explained that I was left handed she told me that the correct way was to
play right handed or not to play at all.  3 years later I finally had enough money saved up and 6 birthdays and christmas presents
saved up to convince my parents to buy what turned out to be a horrible sounding chinese
strat clone... IT WAS ACE! Cheers Stvy
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Re: Left Handed / Right Handed Playing - Experiment.
[Re: Reds]
#212145 - 16/11/05 08:15 PM
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I'm left handed for writing, but then do a lot of other things right handed, like snooker
or golf. I didnt really get a choice, we had a right handed guitar so i learnt
on it, i often have though about switching to a left handed guitar, just it just seems
like a pain. but i will say that as my writing hand is my left hand, i feel i
have a lot more strength in this hand than i would if i had learnt to play Lefty style. glad i chose the Right Side lol
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Re: Left Handed / Right Handed Playing - Experiment.
[Re: Henry-S]
#212154 - 16/11/05 08:27 PM
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Well it's been a couple of days now on the lefty. I have to say, it's not like learning
all over from scratch, because you already know the chord and scale shapes and it's been
fairly easy to mirror them. Easier than playing upside down imo. I just ordered a set of
Kinman Tele pickups to give me more incentive to persevere!!! One thing is for
sure - I wont be locked in to the old 'standard lick patterns', muscle memory and all
that. I think that alone will do me good... Still a way to go though, my RH
still feels like its someone else's hand at the moment
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Re: Left Handed / Right Handed Playing - Experiment.
[Re: Reds]
#212262 - 17/11/05 12:08 AM
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Quote Reds:
my RH still feels
like its someone else's hand at the moment
(insert 'posh wank' joke here)
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Re: Left Handed / Right Handed Playing - Experiment.
[Re: Reds]
#212584 - 17/11/05 05:42 PM
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Still, I guess we left-handed guitarists have it easy (whichever way round we play) http://www.lefthandedpiano.co.uk/about.html
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Re: Left Handed / Right Handed Playing - Experiment.
[Re: Beethoven]
#213008 - 18/11/05 04:03 PM
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Touche!
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Re: Left Handed / Right Handed Playing - Experiment.
[Re: Reds]
#213027 - 18/11/05 04:35 PM
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Suppose I found on ebay a lovely guitar with no bids I really wanted other than it was a
lefty, then it would be fun to teach myself the other orientation. However I don't think
I'd have the time. I'm right handed, but seem to have a reasonable use of my left hand
(not enough to write with).
When I got married last year, of the 4 of us
standing up the front (Bride's father, Bride, Groom, Best Man), I was the only right
handed one!
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Re: Left Handed / Right Handed Playing - Experiment.
[Re: Reds]
#213734 - 20/11/05 05:16 PM
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No one has mentioned Ernie Isley yet. Back in the late 80's he had a dream. He
was in in a school gym with the floor of clouds. Jimi Hendrix was there too. Jimi offered
Ernie his guitar to play, but he couldn't, Hendrix then took Ernie's right handed guitar
and played it. When Ernie woke he decided to learn to play left handed. And
also to learn how to play his right handed guitars left handed and the left handed guitar
right handed. After a lot of practice he got to the point where he sounded the same
playing either handed on either guitar. I still don't have my CD's here, but I'll look up
the one he recorded after that. OK, I can't do it 'properly', but I have taught
myself to play some basic chords right handed on a left handed guitar. Very handy for
testing when I've got a job to do on a left hand instrument.. Andy
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Re: Left Handed / Right Handed Playing - Experiment.
[Re: Reds]
#214414 - 22/11/05 12:00 AM
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Aye... it's a tricky one to decide if you're a lefty. I often wonder if i could have
picked up playing righty just as quick as i consider myself reasonably ambidextrous,
however i write with my left hand so sort of assumed that this is my dominant playing hand
when i first picked up a guitar.. which either way round seemed pretty damn alien way
anyway! Conversely I've thought of purchasing a cheapo (knackered) righty
guitar just to muck about on... It is a right pain in the arse when it comes to
buying instruments not because of availability but because dealers never have ANY decent
bloody stock of lefties  The
only exception to this is Holiday Music in London which has a special lefty section
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Re: Left Handed / Right Handed Playing - Experiment.
[Re: Beethoven]
#217389 - 28/11/05 01:51 PM
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Joe Zawinaul (of Weather Report fame) had 2 ARP 2600s in the 70s, one with a normal
keyboard, the other was reversed...
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Re: Left Handed / Right Handed Playing - Experiment.
[Re: Reds]
#218077 - 29/11/05 06:52 PM
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It's getting a bit spooky round here - I'm yet another guy on this forum who is left
handed but plays right handed! I can still remember picking up a guitar for the
first time aged about 10 and the left way feeling much more natural - however the guy that
taught me had a right handed guitar and said that was the only way he could teach me - so
like some of the others here I'm really glad he did - so much easier buying guitars,
borrowing ones etc. I think the stronger hand stuff is all balls really - you
don't need either hand to be particularly strong to play guitar - it's all about human
adaptation - now picking up a guitar the left way feels just as alien to me as it did
picking it up the right way when I started - I was going to make the piano jokes - but I
see someone beat me to it - but there must be millions of lefties who play "right handed"
keyboards and not have any noticable detriment to their playing - its amazing what you can
learn/adapt to. I'm convinced that if i were injured or something it would be
possible re re-learn the other way round - but other than that what's the point - it has
taken me thirty something years to get where i am now - life's too short unless your
forced into it - ok I can play one or two chords upsidedown for a party trick
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Re: Left Handed / Right Handed Playing - Experiment.
[Re: GlynB]
#219468 - 02/12/05 02:41 PM
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Like Glyn, I'm a left hander most of the time but use the right for the odd thing like
using a mouse, cutting steak, scratching my nose. I don't think that my brain is
particularly well balanced in a left-right sense, it's just confused.
Anyway, I
play guitar right handed but have experimented with lefties. I had the opposite experience
to Reds - fretting with the right was OK, but picking was a nightmare, just couldn't find
the strings. And as for fingerpicking, forget it..
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