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fakiekid



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Foley effects
      #609863 - 29/04/08 09:57 PM
didnt quite know where to ask this but........

im doing a college project on film sound, wondered if anyone had some good tips for the silver surfer from fantastic 4 sounds.

or just generally good sounds/libraries!

www.filmsound.org is great but i wanna know what you all do!

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Re: Foley effects new [Re: fakiekid]
      #609873 - 29/04/08 10:23 PM
lots of good libraries out there , sound ideas have quite a few, but maybe you should go take a look at www.soundsnap.com i find lots to work with if you like design,cheers

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Scope



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Re: Foley effects new [Re: post version]
      #609948 - 30/04/08 08:17 AM
Having just complete another film I can honestly say libraries are good, but "growing your own" is much better.

It will also teach you a lot about sound, which finding a sample on the net, will not.
It takes a bit of creative thought and good mic techniques help.
It is at this point that anyone brought up on instant gratification apps, like Garageband & Acid, suddenly realise how little they actually know.
(- and how much the application does for them ! )

Using your own sounds means any royalties are paid to you, not some anonymous corporate machine and your time is covered in the film's budget,
- provided you don't take the michael.

It also helps if the producer knows what they want.
Sometimes I can spend days playing about with a noise, just for the said Producer to dismiss it. ( very rare these days, but it happens! )

I usually create several versions of sounds so their "highnesses" can audition them.
Giving the Producers options is always a good thing.

Think of it as an opportunity to explore sound.....


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Kwackman



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Re: Foley effects new [Re: Scope]
      #610016 - 30/04/08 11:02 AM
Quote Scope:

Using your own sounds means any royalties are paid to you, not some anonymous corporate machine and your time is covered in the film's budget,
- provided you don't take the michael.




Are you saying you charge the company for recording a sound effect, and they accept that YOU own the copyright on it?
Surely they are paying you to record sound, and that will include SFX?
You could push your argyuement to say you own copyright on the recording of the actors!
Most sound recordists I know get paid for "the shoot" and apart from the hardware they bring there's no extra payments for recording SFX. I don't know any cameramen who get paid extra for shooting GVs either.....

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EnlightenedHand



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Re: Foley effects new [Re: fakiekid]
      #610031 - 30/04/08 11:27 AM
I always see foley cats running aroung in strange little recording rooms with all kinds of rubbish and general daily items in them that they use to create their sounds. I think that if you're interested in seriously approaching foley that you might just get into the habit of creating and recording the effects yourself. As has been mentioned it will at least give you a good understanding of what you can create and how to do it as well as allowing you to get closer to what you need. But it's up to you, obviously.

Liz

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Kwackman



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Re: Foley effects new [Re: EnlightenedHand]
      #610047 - 30/04/08 11:59 AM
I work in a dubbing room a lot.
We've lots of "stuff" to make foley noises.
Biggest problem is convincing the cleaners not to chuck it out as rubbish!

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ROLO46



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Re: Foley effects new [Re: fakiekid]
      #610323 - 30/04/08 10:01 PM
Audio manipulation is fun

Lots has been done with a cabbage and leather gloves....

Experiment

Don't be a librarian...

Roger
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fakiekid



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Re: Foley effects new [Re: fakiekid]
      #610927 - 02/05/08 09:51 AM
yeah, thats great!

we have been recording whatever we have laying around, we even banged a couple of xy nt5's and walked around the control room with a blow torch hahah.

it seems great fun but its getting to be a right pain in the arse.

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Kwackman



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Re: Foley effects new [Re: fakiekid]
      #610955 - 02/05/08 10:37 AM
Quote fakiekid:

walked around the control room with a blow torch...... its getting to be a right pain in the arse.




You might want to pay more attention where you point the blow torch

I'll get my coat....

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duffycolm



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Re: Foley effects new [Re: Kwackman]
      #610957 - 02/05/08 10:40 AM
Quote Lime ZRX:

Quote fakiekid:

walked around the control room with a blow torch...... its getting to be a right pain in the arse.




You might want to pay more attention where you point the blow torch

I'll get my coat....






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fakiekid



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Re: Foley effects new [Re: fakiekid]
      #611051 - 02/05/08 12:46 PM
hahaha,

nah s'all safe.

it's turning out quite fun, just need more ideas and getting hold of stuff to record.

We have a horrible scene to work with, silver surfer breaks windows running down the side of a building. just getting aload of glass sounds that sound right without even breaking anything lol.

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Jez (mahoobley)
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Re: Foley effects new [Re: fakiekid]
      #611075 - 02/05/08 01:34 PM
Obviously its best to record and/or synthesise what you can yourself, but for many things that's not always possible so that's where the libraries come in.

If you are after a nice big pile of sfx for a reasonable price, I'd recommend checking out the Sound Ideas XVMP3 collections:

http://www.sound-ideas.com/xvmp3.html

They're a big bundle covering a wide variety from Sound Ideas Series x000 collections, except they are in MP3 format so not quite as desirable in terms of quality, but they a hell of a lot cheaper! That little bundle was indispensable when I first started out, and I still use stuff from it for my own little projects from time to time.

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ROLO46



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Re: Foley effects new [Re: fakiekid]
      #611172 - 02/05/08 04:17 PM
You need some one like Beryl the Boot

She used to dub porno but moved on to foley

She and her Dubbing Mixer partner were amazingly creative

The majority of 80's Natural History shows were Beryl.......

ROGER
IMHO

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