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Theremax



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3 tracks in full from first release
      #823032 - 31/03/10 09:59 PM
Hello all

After about 5 years in the making, and owing not an insignificant amount to the advice of the SOS forums (mainly through lurking, with the occasional post!) you can now hear some tracks in full here:

http://www.trafficexperiment.net/listen.php

Hope you enjoy.

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oopfoo



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Re: 3 tracks in full from first release new [Re: Theremax]
      #823766 - 03/04/10 06:19 PM
Good stuff! Sirens, particularly the opening vocals, is a remarkably haunting theme to me. I'll be exploring your work at greater length with the purchase of your album. Can't wait to hear it at full resolution!

EDIT: Unfortunately, your shopping cart system says Paypal payment is "temporarily unavailable" and then redirects me to Paypal...again. Is it a problem with US payments? Usually it converts to GBP with no problems.

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Edited by oopfoo (03/04/10 06:22 PM)


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Theremax



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Re: 3 tracks in full from first release new [Re: oopfoo]
      #823776 - 03/04/10 07:10 PM
Thank you for your comments! Very much appreciated.

Apologies that the site's giving you a problem at the moment. I'm just having a quick look now to see what's going on with it...

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Edited by The_Astronomer (03/04/10 07:19 PM)


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Theremax



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Re: 3 tracks in full from first release new [Re: Theremax]
      #823783 - 03/04/10 07:33 PM
Hi Michael

US payments appear to be set up OK. I've just tried a test order from the US and that took me through to Paypal OK. I'm hoping it was just a temporary issue with either Paypal or the Shopping Cart host but please let me know if you have any further problems.

Many thanks.

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oopfoo



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Re: 3 tracks in full from first release new [Re: Theremax]
      #823825 - 03/04/10 10:05 PM
Oh, it takes me to Paypal, seems fine...then asks to confirm the order. At that point, the system reverts to the "unavailable" message again and suggests, again, that I use Paypal. From that page, it simply loops around suggesting Paypal, then saying Paypal is unavailable.

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Theremax



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Re: 3 tracks in full from first release new [Re: oopfoo]
      #824281 - 05/04/10 11:47 PM
It does specifically seem to be orders from the US that are experiencing this issue on the site - a friend based out there has confirmed that he has the same issue - (it's not personal, I promise!). UK and Europe orders are processing fine.

I've now raised it with both PayPal and the cart provider and hopefully between them we can get it resolved asap.

Apologies again.

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Theremax



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Re: 3 tracks in full from first release new [Re: Theremax]
      #824812 - 07/04/10 07:46 PM
US orders now sorted and working again! Very helpful people at PayPal as it turns out

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Re: 3 tracks in full from first release new [Re: Theremax]
      #824821 - 07/04/10 08:18 PM
Very, very good stuff indeed! Bloomin' well done, man!!

Enjoyed listening on both an artistic and sad tecchy level. Great job all round I say.

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The real musiclover



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Re: 3 tracks in full from first release new [Re: The Elf]
      #825071 - 08/04/10 05:02 PM
Listening now. Liking the first track. I like lyrics, cannot pick them all up on one listen, but sound like they're worth listening to.

Currently 2 mins into Sirens... Oh man, the vox, or the lyrics at least, come in at 3 minutes!

And that really makes it for me.
F**k all that 'get everything happening by 20 seconds' crap that the mainstream supposedly needs. And what do they know when that institution produces such dire excuses for music of an emotive nature.

"5 years in the making". I thought as soon as i read that, ok here we go, might be ok. Well, thank you for lifting my mood which wasn't too crash hot. Loving all the 'influences' i can hear.

Only 2 songs heard and if the rest of the album is as good as this (yet to hear the third) then you should be very proud.

Just hope you can 'make it' on your own. And that a huge corporate body doesn't ruin you.

Hey if you wouldn't mind saying if that's you singing, what you are playing etc. Are you a band or whatever? I'll check your site for such though. Nice website too! Like the speakers, bit like me old JBLs.

Best thing i've listened to on this underused part of the forum for years. Not that i really come here too much these days. But that's another story.

Well done. Those three tracks were fab.
I might even investigate buying a CD if you have physical product. Mind you, well encoded downloads would be sufficient.

Really enjoyed those. Thanks.

Edit - You have a deal, or some 'backing' at least already, right. A good team whatever the case may be.

That's perfectly fine if you have.

I see you have CD etc.

Very good.

Edited by The real musiclover (08/04/10 05:08 PM)


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Re: 3 tracks in full from first release new [Re: Theremax]
      #825120 - 08/04/10 08:07 PM
Excellent all round. Great tunes, great playing, great ideas, great recording, great website, great vids, applause all round.

I notice that you recorded at Woodworm Studio as owned by a certain Steve Hill of this parish. Shows how using a 'proper' studio in capable hands makes a LOT of difference.

Advice to others...

Sod what monitors for under £100, which DAW sounds best, etc.... ask for the best rates on a studio so that you get the job done properly ... like these good people have done!

I am very impressed ... and that takes a lot these days.

I wish you all the very best.

And you should try bothering Radcliffe and Maconie with your work - right up their street for their popular and excellent evening wireless spot.

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Re: 3 tracks in full from first release new [Re: hollowsun]
      #825199 - 09/04/10 06:37 AM
Quote hollowsun:


I notice that you recorded at Woodworm Studio as owned by a certain Steve Hill of this parish. Shows how using a 'proper' studio in capable hands makes a LOT of difference.

Advice to others...

Sod what monitors for under £100, which DAW sounds best, etc.... ask for the best rates on a studio so that you get the job done properly ... like these good people have done!





More's the shame that he had to close the studio to punters.


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Theremax



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Re: 3 tracks in full from first release new [Re: The real musiclover]
      #825545 - 10/04/10 09:49 AM
Thanks for your kind comments guys - they're very much appreciated and mean a lot.

Quote:

You have a deal, or some 'backing' at least already, right. A good team whatever the case may be.




No deal or backing. It's all been self-funded (which is part of the reason it's taken so long!). But the advantage was that it gave me plenty of time to really think about the album and make it the way I wanted to and put in the things I love about the music I listen to (like making people wait 3 minutes for the first verse! )

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Theremax



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Re: 3 tracks in full from first release new [Re: thenaturallevel]
      #825546 - 10/04/10 09:55 AM
Quote:

More's the shame that he had to close the studio to punters.




Absolutely. It's such a shame that studios like Woodworm are having to close to the public because, for a period, it seemed like it was a really good time for artists (if not the studios themselves) to be able to afford getting into good studios with good engineers and get some great recordings done. Just not enough of them (the artists) seem to want to do it which is a shame.

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A Non O Miss



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Re: 3 tracks in full from first release new [Re: Theremax]
      #825563 - 10/04/10 11:39 AM
You make me feel completely insignificant...

It makes me question what the hell I am doing.....This is something...I am nothing!

I wish I never clicked on this, but am glad that I did.

Good job.


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Re: 3 tracks in full from first release new [Re: Theremax]
      #825570 - 10/04/10 11:59 AM
that's a sweet video too,,

sounds amazing...great writing.

actually shed a tear....for a lot of complicated reasons.

definitely the best of luck to you.

now to go question my existence...



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Re: 3 tracks in full from first release new [Re: Theremax]
      #826186 - 12/04/10 09:43 PM
Hi all,

For what it's worth, I'm proud of this too. Took a while. Client kept running out of funds. But he would not compromise (on anything). Bought a grand piano - we replaced the piano samples. Bought a Hammond - ditto. Bought a Rhodes - ditto. Bought a lap steel guitar - ditto...

We're in an era where not many artists will take this much trouble any more.

If Woodworm needs a tombstone, let it be this.

And buy the bloody thing.

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A Non O Miss



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Re: 3 tracks in full from first release new [Re: Steve Hill]
      #826190 - 12/04/10 10:04 PM
Amazing!!

Brilliant!!

Glad to hear. You can definitely tell these guys care, about a lot of things. I am down with people not willing to compromise, it's too bad the funds is always what get's in the way.

It sounds really nice Steve, glad your proud..makes me dream of being able to do it up that big one day..

270 odd views...cmon, more people need to at least hear 'this..this' would be a great hard copy to have.

instead of all those stupid copyright threads that go nowhere people should take 10 minutes out of their day and check these guys out!!


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Re: 3 tracks in full from first release new [Re: A Non O Miss]
      #826209 - 12/04/10 10:43 PM
Quote A Non O Miss:

Amazing!!

instead of all those stupid copyright threads that go nowhere people should take 10 minutes out of their day and check these guys out!!




I'm not arguing.

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Re: 3 tracks in full from first release new [Re: Theremax]
      #826222 - 12/04/10 11:51 PM
There's good things happening here. We like

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Re: 3 tracks in full from first release new [Re: Steve Hill]
      #826236 - 13/04/10 05:50 AM
Quote Steve Hill:

For what it's worth, I'm proud of this too.



You have every right! Well done!

C'mon, though. Spill the technical beans for us saddos - what's going on in there? I love the sweet vocal sound in particular. How'd you approach that?

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Re: 3 tracks in full from first release new [Re: The Elf]
      #826237 - 13/04/10 06:18 AM
Most of the time the vocals are a (UAD version of) a Fairlight compressor and a Neve 1073 EQ, with outboard reverb from the Lexicon 480L.

On the opening track of the album where he wanted a rougher sound he made me add some distortion via a guitar amp.

He recorded most of the vocals at his home studio with middling equipment; I lent him a Neumann TLM 170 which was used on some vocals.

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Re: 3 tracks in full from first release new [Re: Steve Hill]
      #826388 - 13/04/10 03:09 PM
Having just A/B-ed the 160Kb/s tracks against the original masters, can I seriously implore anyone to listen to the CD!!!

God, I hate mp3s.

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Re: 3 tracks in full from first release new [Re: Steve Hill]
      #826620 - 14/04/10 06:32 AM
Wow! Organic, soulful, melodic, adventurous & bursting with creativity - great sounds to boot - very, very nice!

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Re: 3 tracks in full from first release new [Re: Theremax]
      #827050 - 15/04/10 12:55 PM
...am i allowed not to like it??

I admire the recording, and the dedication.....but it's all a bit wishy washy for me....and a little like a bad pink floyd/gabriel....

Doesn't really have the spark i'd like...not mellow enough for mellow music - not edgy enough for excitement... a little dull for me...and sirens is messy - i'm ok with groove - but i think the acoustic guitars are messing with the rhythm of the drums - which sound as if they're a million miles away from everything else...just a little too ramshackle for my tastes...(IMHO - which isn't really that valid or important to be fair!)

hmmm...

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Edited by Wease (15/04/10 12:57 PM)


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Theremax



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Re: 3 tracks in full from first release new [Re: Wease]
      #827071 - 15/04/10 01:53 PM
Quote Wease:

...am i allowed not to like it??



Yes, of course! All comments welcome.

Quote Wease:

and a little like a bad pink floyd/gabriel....




... though, ouch!!

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Re: 3 tracks in full from first release new [Re: Theremax]
      #827076 - 15/04/10 02:02 PM
yeah - a little harsh maybe, and i am sorry that it sounds that way (ie.. like bad gabriel/floyd)....
I think it's just not my cup o tea to be honest.....i think you have a great rounded project with all the right bits and bobs in....just don't really like it!



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