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jamesclark1991



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Live Sound Desk
      #974440 - 06/03/12 04:24 PM
Looking for a live sound mixing desk add to my PA system, can anyone recommend a desk with good reviews/personal opinions for under £1000

Must be 16 channels minimum


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Stef Andrews



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Re: Live Sound Desk new [Re: jamesclark1991]
      #974441 - 06/03/12 04:31 PM
Given the info you've specified, I would be looking at the Allen & Heath Mixwizard 16, and the higher spec Allen & Heath Zed range consoles. We could do with more information though - how many auxes do you need? Pre/post fade? Would you like internal fx or do you use your own outboard? Do you need groups?

However, A&H Mix Wiz 16 should do nicely - 16 channels, 6 auxes (i think - 4 pre/2post), the new ones have internal fx although i've not had chance to use them.

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Re: Live Sound Desk new [Re: jamesclark1991]
      #974447 - 06/03/12 05:36 PM
I'm with Stef re recommendations and the things you haven't mentioned that you want/need.

The A&H ZED420 is within budget and the ZED428 just over. I have a 420 and am very pleased with it. It just 'works' at all levels.

I've used a Mixwizard several times - that's a great desk too, with the advantage of on-board effects and being rack-mountable.

Don't forget to budget for a decent flightcase too...


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Re: Live Sound Desk new [Re: jamesclark1991]
      #974469 - 06/03/12 08:28 PM
+1Allen & Heath

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grab



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Re: Live Sound Desk new [Re: jamesclark1991]
      #974526 - 07/03/12 10:07 AM
If you don't need/want groups, the A&H ZED24 is a bit of a bargain at £522.

Note that all the desks recommended so far don't have built-in FX. But you can easily hit eBay and get a decent second-hand FX processor for under a ton, which is about what it costs to get a desk with built-in FX anyway. It'll sound better, and you can use it on every desk in the future.


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Re: Live Sound Desk new [Re: grab]
      #974529 - 07/03/12 10:11 AM
>Note that all the desks recommended so far don't have built-in FX.

The A&H MixWizard 16 has internal FX.


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Re: Live Sound Desk new [Re: grab]
      #974531 - 07/03/12 10:22 AM
Quote grab:

If you don't need/want groups, the A&H ZED24 is a bit of a bargain at £522.




True; but it isn't so comprehensively specc'd as what's been mentioned - eg one swept-mid rather than two and four auxes rather than six. (By shopping around I got my 420 for £749 last summer.)

... but we're all guessing really until the OP produces a more detailed shopping-list.

I'd agree that if money is tight then the ZED24 IS a very good buy.


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21stcenturykid



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Re: Live Sound Desk new [Re: jamesclark1991]
      #974734 - 08/03/12 12:22 PM
I'm very happy with my Mackie Onyx 1640i. Doesn't have built in effect but I use my mac through the firewire connection into my DAW or Apples Mainstage to get effects. I think this is better. It means using parallel compression if you need it but I prefer that anyway!


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jamesclark1991



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Re: Live Sound Desk new [Re: jamesclark1991]
      #974822 - 08/03/12 08:55 PM
Hey, cheers for the replies. The desk needs to be somewhere between 12 - 16 channels. I do not need groups or inserts. I do need auxilieries for stereo graphics and reverb but nothing other than that. Nothing major, it's for a 3 man band.

EDIT: Need to be able to PFL on this desk aswell, and by graphics I mean a frequency boost/cut unit. I also need to have 2 mixes available.

Edited by jamesclark1991 (08/03/12 09:03 PM)


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jamesclark1991



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Re: Live Sound Desk new [Re: grab]
      #974829 - 08/03/12 09:18 PM
The ZED-24 desk seems to have what I want for a reasonable price (unless I'm mis-understood) but I can't find any reviews for it :L

Any reviews to back up this desk? Hate buying without having a professional's opinion


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grab



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Re: Live Sound Desk new [Re: jamesclark1991]
      #974834 - 08/03/12 10:01 PM
The ZED-24 falls into that odd niche between "major product" and "consumer/prosumer". It's too expensive for someone to randomly buy on a whim, but it's not as fully-featured as things like the ZED-4** ones so it won't be sent out for reviews. Not many people dislike A&H products though.

Alternatively, you could always go second-hand. Checking the SoS Readers' Ads, there's a flightcased Mackie Onyx 1640 (condition described as "immaculate") for £600 which would do you nicely. Even allowing for carting from Glasgow to wherever you live, it'll still be well under budget.


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Re: Live Sound Desk new [Re: jamesclark1991]
      #975319 - 12/03/12 01:30 PM
used midas venice ??

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21stcenturykid



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Re: Live Sound Desk new [Re: grab]
      #975399 - 12/03/12 10:04 PM
Quote grab:

The ZED-24 falls into that odd niche between "major product" and "consumer/prosumer". It's too expensive for someone to randomly buy on a whim, but it's not as fully-featured as things like the ZED-4** ones so it won't be sent out for reviews. Not many people dislike A&H products though.

Alternatively, you could always go second-hand. Checking the SoS Readers' Ads, there's a flightcased Mackie Onyx 1640 (condition described as "immaculate") for £600 which would do you nicely. Even allowing for carting from Glasgow to wherever you live, it'll still be well under budget.




use parcel2go and it'll only cost £15 tops if you do it without insurance!


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Re: Live Sound Desk new [Re: Ed_J90]
      #975456 - 13/03/12 09:58 AM
Yeah Ed, I saw that too. Probably more expensive and less channels than he needs, though.


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