Thomas.
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Using measuring tools to improve set up
#988722 - 21/05/12 01:35 PM
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I'm setting up my recording desk, and I'm wondering if using some sound measurement tools
would be useful in helping me. I have access to an SPL meter (which does dB and dBA,
IIRC) and a test microphone with oscilloscope (effectively). Is it worth grabbing these
and making some measurements, and if so, what should I look for in the results?
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Hugh Robjohns
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Re: Using measuring tools to improve set up
[Re: Thomas.]
#988743 - 21/05/12 02:46 PM
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Not really. If you don't know what you're testing for there's not much point testing!  You could set a reference listening level, and you could analyse the
system/room's frequency repsonse... but then what? Hugh
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Thomas.
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Re: Using measuring tools to improve set up
[Re: Thomas.]
#988758 - 21/05/12 04:06 PM
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Fair enough  . I wish I'd paid more attention to my acoustics lectures at Uni, but I was
just wondering if there was any benefit to measurung stuff - it's the engineer in me
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Hugh Robjohns
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Re: Using measuring tools to improve set up
[Re: Thomas.]
#988761 - 21/05/12 04:25 PM
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Yes, of course there's a benefit to it if you can interpret and do something constructive
with the results. From your original post I got the impression that this might not apply
to you -- apologies if I guessed wrong.  But if you want to set a calibrated reference listening SPL you certainly can, with some
pracical advantages. Likewise, an accurate measurement of the in-room frequency responses
would provide pointers to optimising hte room's acoustic treatment. The
question is, what do you want to achieve and what tools and knowledge do you have? hugh
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sheggs
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Re: Using measuring tools to improve set up
[Re: Hugh Robjohns]
#988800 - 21/05/12 07:42 PM
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If testing for acoustics we recommend the REW software and have a video on how to use it
here - http://www.gikacoustics.com/video_rew_room_eq_wizard_tutorial.htmlPop any results on here; waterfall graphs etc and I'm sure you will get
plenty of help
-------------------- David Shevyn General Manager GIK Acoustics Europe
www.gikacoustics.co.uk
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Glenn Kuras
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Re: Using measuring tools to improve set up
[Re: Hugh Robjohns]
#989149 - 23/05/12 02:15 PM
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Quote Hugh Robjohns:
Yes, of
course there's a benefit to it if you can interpret and do something constructive with the
results. From your original post I got the impression that this might not apply to you --
apologies if I guessed wrong. 
But if you want to set a calibrated reference listening SPL you certainly can, with some
pracical advantages. Likewise, an accurate measurement of the in-room frequency responses
would provide pointers to optimising hte room's acoustic treatment.
The
question is, what do you want to achieve and what tools and knowledge do you have?
hugh
For the most
part, unless you are a pro at this stuff, testing is great for making sure you have the
monitors and listening spot in the correct area of the room. Granted even doing that is
not a small task to a beginner.
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Now with offices in the USA and Europe
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Thomas.
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Re: Using measuring tools to improve set up
[Re: Glenn Kuras]
#989150 - 23/05/12 02:23 PM
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Quote Glenn Kuras:
Quote Hugh Robjohns:
Yes, of
course there's a benefit to it if you can interpret and do something constructive with the
results. From your original post I got the impression that this might not apply to you --
apologies if I guessed wrong. 
But if you want to set a calibrated reference listening SPL you certainly can, with some
pracical advantages. Likewise, an accurate measurement of the in-room frequency responses
would provide pointers to optimising hte room's acoustic treatment.
The
question is, what do you want to achieve and what tools and knowledge do you have?
hugh
For the most
part, unless you are a pro at this stuff, testing is great for making sure you have the
monitors and listening spot in the correct area of the room. Granted even doing that is
not a small task to a beginner.
Yes, that's pretty much what I want to
achieve. I'm thinking along the lines of "put dB meter where head goes, move speakers to
get best response on the meter, repeat with different pitch tone and find the best average
positioning" sort of thing. And sorry for my vagueness in my first post, I was posting
from a phone I'm new to the world of sound recording, but I am a "real" Engineer and have
taught Physics for the last 15 years, so I'm fairly familiar with the science behind the
art.
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Martin Walker
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Re: Using measuring tools to improve set up
[Re: Thomas.]
#989337 - 24/05/12 02:13 PM
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Hi Thomas, and welcome to the SOS Forums!
As you know all the theory, it will get you off to a flying start if you can place your
loudspeakers firing down the longer dimension of your room, placed about 38% from the
front wall, with tweeters at head height, since this should place them in arguably the
best position with respect to the various room modes to give a reasonably flat response
even before you add any acoustic treatment.
Why make your life more difficult
than you need to?
Martin
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