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Re: Slightly confused about the naming of keys...
      22/09/09 10:04 PM
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For it to be 'in' the key of G, F#s are required (which is why in Marineville the D min chord sounds odd). For it to be in E min, we'd need F#s and D#s (and of course B major would be the dominant).

Depending on the context of what follows, this progression should really be a stock and classic II, V, I (in C) which is why the pull to resolve to C major is felt so strongly,



I don't think there is a strong pull toward C. I think it pulls toward G or E. If I improvise round this I definitely use F# over the E min to C and then F natural for the Dmin to G which is why I'm not concerned with formal descriptions of key signatures.
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but the I is not achieved and instead we hear the E minor as III in C (rather than the final in E Phrygian).



Approaching the tonic from the mediant is a really ugly way of getting there. That's why it doesn't sound C ish to me.
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The II, V, I cadence is ubiquitous in Bach for example and is usually modulatory in function,



except for the billions of occasions where II V I doesn't modulate
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but of course, no modulation is happening here if we assume a circular progression. As a result, I'd suggest mixolydian as an appropriate modal reading of this.




Mixolydian on G then.
That would be the same key signature as C.

phew. I'm done with this now.

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* Slightly confused about the naming of keys... Rhys Llewellyn 28/07/09 08:51 AM
. * Re: Slightly confused about the naming of keys... Guitar Wizard   07/10/10 12:27 AM
. * Re: Slightly confused about the naming of keys... Guitar Wizard   06/10/10 10:56 PM
. * Re: Slightly confused about the naming of keys... fletcher   06/10/10 11:50 PM
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. * Re: Slightly confused about the naming of keys... fletcher   06/10/10 09:41 PM
. * Re: Slightly confused about the naming of keys... Rousseau   22/09/09 06:53 PM
. * Re: Slightly confused about the naming of keys... Chucho   22/09/09 10:04 PM
. * Re: Slightly confused about the naming of keys... fletcher   22/09/09 10:25 PM
. * Re: Slightly confused about the naming of keys... fletcher   18/09/09 10:39 AM
. * Re: Slightly confused about the naming of keys... Chucho   22/09/09 11:59 AM
. * Re: Slightly confused about the naming of keys... fletcher   17/09/09 02:01 PM
. * Re: Slightly confused about the naming of keys... Doll Face   18/09/09 06:29 AM
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. * Re: Slightly confused about the naming of keys... Doll Face   17/09/09 11:43 AM
. * Re: Slightly confused about the naming of keys... Commander   16/09/09 09:23 AM
. * Re: Slightly confused about the naming of keys... tex   14/09/09 10:55 PM
. * Re: Slightly confused about the naming of keys... Doll Face   16/09/09 12:47 AM
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. * Re: Slightly confused about the naming of keys... Commander   13/09/09 08:10 PM
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