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Re: 'tonal centers'
      22/09/09 11:00 PM
Chucho I think Secret Sam is well aware that if your playing "So What" in D dorian you can't think like your playing C major.

However saying D dorian has nothing to do with C major (ionian in this case) is not quite what your own quote says. Of course it has something to do with C Ionian - it's the same notes! Your quote is right but you are not.

Blame the greeks - they invented it, and modes.

Interesting that the modes were named after the main greek tribes, re-invented by the Christian church in the middle ages and then replaced by the modern method of key signatures in the 17th century. So it's not worth arguing too much about the Cmaj scale or the C Ionian mode - they are the same - just a different usage. In the real world we need to communicate ideas to each other as easily as possible so we are often guilty of mixing the language of modes with the language of keys. Does it matter though, as long as we understand what is being communicated?

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* 'tonal centers' colin s 22/09/09 08:16 AM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' Larry Mal   17/10/09 05:45 PM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' jayzed   16/10/09 09:28 PM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' Larry Mal   16/10/09 08:32 PM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' dubbmann   16/10/09 11:44 PM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' fletcher   16/10/09 09:09 PM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' beatmunga   15/10/09 07:40 PM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' The Bunk   15/10/09 07:45 PM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' beatmunga   15/10/09 07:59 PM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' R. Spisketts   15/10/09 10:53 AM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' dubbmann   15/10/09 01:32 AM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' beatmunga   15/10/09 07:01 AM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' colin s   15/10/09 07:25 AM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' colin s   15/10/09 06:27 AM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' Gorodish   14/10/09 11:25 PM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' Daniel Davis   14/10/09 10:10 PM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' turbodave   14/10/09 06:33 PM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' beatmunga   14/10/09 07:28 PM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' colin s   14/10/09 07:22 AM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' beatmunga   14/10/09 06:09 PM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' Larry Mal   10/10/09 06:42 PM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' colin s   12/10/09 06:15 AM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' chris...   12/10/09 09:20 AM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' beatmunga   07/10/09 06:56 PM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' dubbmann   14/10/09 05:23 AM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' colin s   07/10/09 06:29 PM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' We Are All Colins   09/10/09 12:38 PM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' IvanSC   11/10/09 12:39 PM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' Larry Mal   07/10/09 05:25 PM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' muso steve   07/10/09 06:04 PM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' Daniel Davis   07/10/09 04:56 PM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' Daniel Davis   07/10/09 04:46 PM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' Larry Mal   04/10/09 05:34 AM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' Larry Mal   04/10/09 04:55 AM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' dubbmann   30/09/09 04:33 AM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' colin s   29/09/09 06:38 AM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' colin s   28/09/09 06:21 AM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' dubbmann   29/09/09 03:38 AM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' grab   28/09/09 09:10 AM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' fletcher   26/09/09 07:43 PM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' dubbmann   26/09/09 07:31 PM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' onesecondglance   27/09/09 09:07 AM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' colin s   26/09/09 06:47 PM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' Ivories   27/09/09 02:06 PM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' colin s   26/09/09 10:12 AM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' Ivories   26/09/09 05:02 PM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' muso steve   23/09/09 05:54 PM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' Larry Mal   23/09/09 05:43 PM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' SecretSam   23/09/09 09:10 AM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' SecretSam   23/09/09 08:46 AM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' colin s   23/09/09 07:05 AM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' chris...   28/09/09 11:59 AM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' grab   24/09/09 12:35 PM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' DB111   23/09/09 08:09 AM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' SecretSam   22/09/09 12:23 PM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' Chucho   22/09/09 01:13 PM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' fletcher   22/09/09 11:00 PM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' Chucho   23/09/09 08:47 AM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' fletcher   23/09/09 10:10 AM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' Chucho   23/09/09 10:24 AM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' SecretSam   22/09/09 12:16 PM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' SecretSam   22/09/09 11:14 AM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' Chucho   22/09/09 11:44 AM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' Mark F   22/09/09 10:20 AM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' grab   22/09/09 10:00 AM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' colin s   22/09/09 10:05 AM
. * Re: 'tonal centers' grab   22/09/09 12:53 PM

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