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Re: Your Favorite Decade of Music and the "Dr. Who Affinity Test"
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Quote fletcher:
I hear you - I'm all for the new - time will sort out the good from the bad as always. What I worry more about is that it isn't heard, at least not by enough people. The industry doesn't invest in new talent any more, and gives it no time to develop. It's not about what my generation thinks, we might hate it - sometimes that's the point, but it has to get heard by all to matter.
It does invest in new talent - just not as much as it used to. Every band I've developed and moved onto a label has been funded, prior to that deal, by various label elements. From Little Fish to Warpaint - lots of dev work going on - just not in the charts. But all music isn't chart music (in fact I'd argue that very little of it is).
Quote fletcher:
On another point, where's the protest music? Someone said to me recently nobody's angry enough to care these days.
Well
1. There are plenty of acts out there doing just that
2. Many acts - as always - aren't intellectual or intelligent enough to sing about such things
3. Actually check out what some pop songs are about - listen to Eminem for example. A pop musician who absolutely DOES comment on modern social and political situations.
It's a combo of all three - but again, you don't generally find it in the charts because the charts no longer reflect what's "going on".
Quote fletcher:
What?! Think what we've had in the last 10 years - climate change, terrorism, wars over oil disguised as war on terrorism, banks wreaking the economy whilst we repair the damage and they keep getting bonuses, no work for many, £9k per annum to go to university...... I could go on.
I had a moderate hit record in 2003 (top 40 but sadly not top 30) on two of those subjects. You wouldn't know it though
Ive worked
with acts since then who are very much in touch with their political side. The other side
of that problem is "the youth" is pretty apathetic when it comes to politics - but that's
been by design. Bit of a catch 22 no?
Quote fletcher:
So what are we doing with the music? Where's the new Bob Dylan? What are the rappers saying - look at my gold chain/car/girl - I remember when hip hop was VERY political.
Some of it still is. But again, you won't find it, generally, in the charts.
Quote fletcher:
Sorry to whoever didn't like punk (not for me either) but I would love to see a new punk type kick up the arse for the music industry.
Punk is pretty much anything anti-establishment. The new punk was, unfortunately, piracy. The "kids" doing it for themselves. Musically? - I'd argue there is a new punk every few years - Drum n Bass back in the late 90s, maybe Grime or similar a couple of years ago.
Quote fletcher:
Not seeing it happen yet but I hope it does. I still think music matters to young people but they need to reclaim it for themselves. That means they need to learn to PLAY THEIR INSTRUMENTS. If you want to play music that's the bottom line.
That's a bit subjective though isnt it? Ones mans cool playing is another mans progressive over the top tripe. It also goes against the grain of your previous "punk" statement. Playing is important, though, from my personal aesthetic, but it's no guarantee of musical "necessity". Look at Adele's band when she performs live. She's an awesome singer - but man, they're so [ ****** ] session it's a disgrace. No soul.
Quote fletcher:
Anything else is just fantasy. It's not real. If you can play, you can play live and take the record companies out of the loop.
Got to massively disagree with that one. That would have been a light folly five years ago - but to think that a band can do ANYTHING without a label (admittedly you need a team that thinks out of the box but a label none the less) is thinking small, even a little naive (sorry - not trying to insult, but I work in the forward thinking sector of the biz, and we all looked at "doing it on our own" 8 or so years ago - reality checks hit hard). You just need a better label - not a backward thinking major.
Quote fletcher:
Once something happens they come running. For that though it's got to be good and it has to relate to the audiences lives and speak for and to them. Right now there's a lot of music "talking load and saying nuthin'" - to quote James Brown.
Possibly true. the thing is - there is no unified audience any more. You'll find that if you stop trying to attract the masses you do much better. Of course, every now and then you get something that crosses over and it becomes a broadband hit - but that sort of music is usually saying "nuthin'".... Again though - look outside of the charts (and as I keep saying - the charts are the FASTEST selling tunes, not the biggest or most relevant). Go back to last year - Crooked Vultures didn't really have an huge hits did they? Strangely they sold more albums and made more money than Katy Perry. Keep out of the charts and look around.... there are a lot more people into music than 17 year old girls..... mind you , what did the Beatles ever say apart from trite bollox....
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