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Re: Bob Clearmountain v Line 6 POD
      08/06/11 01:18 PM
Quote fletcher:

For the record I do prefer the real thing, but the point is calling the amp sim "un-mixable" is a bit unfair.




Yes, I'd agree with that. Although I suppose there's always a risk of guitarists using a model preset that's drenched in compression and FX. Certainly the better plug-ins that I've used work best when you strip it down to the bare bones of preamp, power amp and cab - eg Softube, without all those effects to muddle things.


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It takes too long to pull the amp out and mic it up anyway - maybe worth it sometimes. However I have never felt the need to re-amp (with a real amp) yet.




I don't agree with the first point. Yes, it might take time for an amp to warm up, but surely it's worth it if the result is noticeably better?! On the re-amping, I guess that's kinda like the 'I never felt the need to use the hardware version' sentiment about plug-ins — because what you hear is 'good enough'. It's only when you bother to make the effort that you discover 'good enough' can be turned into 'bloody brilliant' that you realise what you're missing!

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What's played is still the most important thing for how something sits in a mix - not that all engineers realise this




Can't argue with that. The worst thing in the world is a mediocre turd with polished sonics that half-way kids you into thinking it's a good song! Give me a shitty recording of a great performance over that any day of the week.

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